Twin D-500 Restore-a-Thon / Full-Comp WOPL upgrade (+ first a PL 400 S2 WOPLing / Proof of concept / Process debug )

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I'm a fan of Derek on Vice Grip garage (search youtube).

Highly recommended for insider tips and tricks, such as this "one grit" sanding technique.

He makes a habit of buying cars sight unseen and driving them home several hundred miles... "Were gonna pretend we didn't see that. It's fine."
 
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I prefer the satisfaction of bringing something back from the landfill event horizon to shelling out cash for a replacement.

Plus, like with cars, original parts always increase value compared to replacements.
J!m, I feel the same exact way -- there is a sense of satisfaction when you fix something in order to get the total "price per use" lower than it was when previously abandoned...

BTW, I liked your mixed metaphor, and got to wondering if I'd ever heard/read it before?

landfill event horizon 1 google hit(opt).jpg

As it turns out, currently there is exactly '1' listing for that phrase on google. (!)

Revel in your unique train of thought! :0)
 

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Derailed train of thought unfortunately. But, it doesn’t stop.

Started resurrection of another scrap heap today. Pioneer SX-880 that looks as if it was the main system at the local sewerage treatment plant. Knobs we’re in ultrasonic alcohol for two hours and are still nasty. They’re soaking (without Sonics) overnight now.
 
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But my real focus this morning is to document a much more substantial win for the lab. For troubleshooting/testing/debug I wanted to 'invest' in a no-kidding DC power supply. Since so much of what we do requires both +/- voltages simultaneously, I was most interested in a 'dual' power supply, where the 2 supplies could either be used seperately, or working in tandem (ie 'tracking') together.

After much sifting, I found the following listing best fit my criteria. Good news - a judicious bid right at the end of the auction netted me a 24-lb power supply for the right price:

View attachment 59027

Here's a closeup, showing a calibrated FLUKE connected to one output:
(Note: both channels were shown in the auction to be working.)

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Visually, this power supply looks like it was used, not abused. Of course, given it's age, I'm going to go through the supply & renew whatever bits are on the far end of the bathtub curve -- using an approach similar to this successful troubleshooting/repair thread on a similar HP power supply.

More good news -- I won this auction yesterday, paid immediately, and according to the tracking number it's already left physical Phoenix & is headed towards the finger lakes region. (!)

We're past the point of no return. Thumbs up! :0)
The HP 6228 Dual tracking power supply ($37 + shipping/tax = $112.47 to the door) arrived from Arizona today. Here's what I received:
HP 6228 as shipped - OK.JPG
(0-50vdc, 1 amp x 2 channels)

But wait, there's more! Shortly after I found a slightly different HP 62xx series power supply on offer -- a 6227, which offers a 0-25vdc, 2 amp output x 2. A little less voltage, but a little more grunt, looked like a good fit for what I have in mind down the road. A little more spendy at the asking price of ~$120, (but the seller knocked a little off) the shipping was only $36, and of course the 8% NY state tax = $146.90 to the door.) It was so clean, looked like somebody owned it at home vs. just being used in a manufacturing production environment by employees.

And what tipped me over the edge was the very neat, very cool DYMO label on it. So here is my lab-to-be's 2nd power supply:
HP 6227B Dual DC power supply (Wildebeest).JPG
(0-25vdc, 2 amp x 2 channels)

Total damage to the piggy bank for both power supplies is $259.37.

IMHO, this compares favorably to this clean (single) HP power supply on eBay today, listed for $395.00 + shipping:
Comparison auction $395 for 1 power supply.jpg

Of course we'll see if I'm still smiling after I rummage through both units & see what it's going to take to bring them back to trustworthy status. :0)

Happy New Year to all my fellow audio enthusiasts here in the Phoenix PL forum!

Cheers -
 
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The HP 6228 Dual tracking power supply ($37 + shipping/tax = $112.47 to the door) arrived from Arizona today. Here's what I received:
View attachment 59615
(0-50vdc, 1 amp x 2 channels)

But wait, there's more! Shortly after I found a slightly different HP 62xx series power supply on offer -- a 6227, which offers a 0-25vdc, 2 amp output x 2. A little less voltage, but a little more grunt, looked like a good fit for what I have in mind down the road. A little more spendy at the asking price of ~$120, (but the seller knocked a little off) the shipping was only $36, and of course the 8% NY state tax = $146.90 to the door.) It was so clean, looked like somebody owned it at home vs. just being used in a manufacturing production environment by employees.

And what tipped me over the edge was the very neat, very cool DYMO label on it. So here is my lab-to-be's 2nd power supply:
View attachment 59616
(0-25vdc, 2 amp x 2 channels)

Total damage to the piggy bank for both power supplies is $259.37.

IMHO, this compares favorably to this clean (single) HP power supply on eBay today, listed for $395.00 + shipping:
View attachment 59617

Of course we'll see if I'm still smiling after I rummage through both units & see what it's going to take to bring them back to trustworthy status. :0)

Happy New Year to all my fellow audio enthusiasts here in the Phoenix PL forum!

Cheers -
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OK, another small step for the lab - the Simpson 260 came in from TX.

Note: My focus was on the meter & leads, the leather case was a bonus - even though it had 3 silver-colored smudges/fingerprints on it...a don't-care on my end. More importantly to me was the photos of the internals showing the board & all components were in mint condition.
Simpson 260 auction photo of leather case smudges.jpg

As it turned out, a little bit of old-school KIWI saddle soap on a moistened washcloth removed the markings & brought the leather case back to new condition. Better yet, check out the pink poly bubble wrap w/note + clear top wrap that the seller (" n5oe ") employed. This was on top of all the box filled with the shipping peanuts. Definitely an A+ for protective shipping.

small 1) Simpson 260 packaging excellent.jpg

Beauty shot --
2) Simpson 260 meter + case & leads beauty shot.JPG

Here's the meter in the leather case:
small 3) Simpson 260 + cables inside case.jpg

And here is how the meter will look whenever it's not in active use:
small 4) Simpson 260 & cables inside carry case.jpg

Even though I have digital voltmeters & use them by default, for some adjustments is just a lot easier to tune to a peak (or null) by watching a meter swing vs. watching the numbers on a DVM. And there's always the benefit of being able to do a quick cross-check when you are getting counter-intuitive results. Sometimes, you need something with the ability to swing...
 
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OK, another small step for the lab - the Simpson 260 came in from TX.

Note: My focus was on the meter & leads, the leather case was a bonus - even though it had 3 silver-colored smudges/fingerprints on it...a don't-care on my end. More importantly to me was the photos of the internals showing the board & all components were in mint condition.
View attachment 59729

As it turned out, a little bit of old-school KIWI saddle soap on a moistened washcloth removed the markings & brought the leather case back to new condition. Better yet, check out the pink poly bubble wrap w/note + clear top wrap that the seller (" n5oe ") employed. This was on top of all the box filled with the shipping peanuts. Definitely an A+ for protective shipping.

View attachment 59730

Beauty shot --
View attachment 59733

Here's the meter in the leather case:
View attachment 59735

And here is how the meter will look whenever it's not in active use:
View attachment 59737

Even though I have digital voltmeters & use them by default, for some adjustments is just a lot easier to tune to a peak (or null) by watching a meter swing vs. watching the numbers on a DVM. And there's always the benefit of being able to do a quick cross-check when you are getting counter-intuitive results. Sometimes, you need something with the ability to swing...

Definitely well cared for.....NICE!!
 

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Same here George, Dad had Simpsons...still have one of his old ones......sadly i had it on ohms and hooked it to 480......
 

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Maybe....it was pretty roached....but ol Davis here may have inspired me to give it a go..

A guy can not have too many meters..
 
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Definitely well cared for.....NICE!!
Lee, it has that NOS (New Old Stock) look & feel to it. It's too nice to bang around in the garage with it...no worries, I am at least 2 deep in 'looks bad, works good' type meters already in use out there. :0) It's nice when you don't have to drag out the good stuff in order to troubleshoot the 'no headlight' writeup on the snowblower. :0)

George S, just watching the meter swing & zeroizing it brings back a flood of memories...all the way back to Basic Electronics class in high school. (I have to admit that the purchase was part practicality, and part nostalgia. Just like I'd rather ride around in a '55 Thunderbird than a '05 S2000.)

Not to mention that it will be a nice Easter Egg in the background with the test subject in the foreground. It really is a classic, and for a certain portion of the crowd it will help to give the shot/story some visual cred. :0)
 
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Lee, it has that NOS (New Old Stock) look & feel to it. It's too nice to bang around in the garage with it...no worries, I am at least 2 deep in 'looks bad, works good' type meters already in use out there. :0) It's nice when you don't have to drag out the good stuff in order to troubleshoot the 'no headlight' writeup on the snowblower. :0)

George S, just watching the meter swing & zeroizing it brings back a flood of memories...all the way back to Basic Electonics class in high school. (I have to admit that the purchase was part practicality, and part nostalgia. Just like I'd rather ride around in a '55 Thunderbird than a '05 S2000.)

Not to mention that it will be a nice Easter Egg in the background with the test subject in the foreground. It really is a classic, and for a certain portion of the crowd it will help to give the shot/story some visual cred. :0)

Yeah, zeroing out with the leads touching takes you do a different place..
 
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Maybe....it was pretty roached....but ol Davis here may have inspired me to give it a go..

A guy can not have too many meters..
Lee, you saw how I wrote up how much better I felt undoing the scratches on the dust cover of my old Dual turntable. Even if you blew an etch you can usually put a lasting 'field fix' on it with a piece of wire bridging the damage & soldered on both ends.

Some things can't be quantified in terms of a normal business transaction...fixing Dad's old Simpson is at a whole 'nuther level. I say go for it -- it will feel much better than it has any right to when you bring it back to life! :0)
 
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