grapplesaw
Veteran and General Yakker
Ok then i will measure later. I will change them out first now it is apart.I meant in and powered, black test lead on ground, see what you have for voltage on each leg....
Ok then i will measure later. I will change them out first now it is apart.I meant in and powered, black test lead on ground, see what you have for voltage on each leg....
So the bias voltage increases with heat. Not sure how that reduces heat in an amp. I thought the bias voltage would dropped as thing get hotter
Eyeh .9 volts
is it worth testing bias transistor or just change it and the 180 ohm resistor on the first driver?.
So.......with no load and no input, if you heat the bias transistor the bias voltage will drop??
So we set bias with not load on input and no output to say .350volts after heat up time is stable.Bias in a solid state amp should decrease when the output stages increase in heat.
The base-emitter junction turn on voltage of NPN devices decreases as they get hotter so it is necessary to DROP the bias as the output stage heats up. If this does not occur then runaway occurs and blows fuses as you have seen.
Also bias in the .46 range is in the danger zone. That is dangerously close to the turn on voltage of a hot output semiconductor. You need to bring the maximum bias down to the 0.35-0.38V range.
So we set bias with not load on input and no output to say .350volts after heat up time is stable.
Now after connecting light input voltage and 8 ohm dummy the biass instantly jumps up to say .4 volts and as time goes on it continues to rise. Should this happen? Is there a threshold where it will actually start to go down?
Ok that is what I thought. So now to find what is causing this. First thing I will replace the bias transistors but that is not it. It's strange isn't itThat should not happen Glenn.
Does your D500 have the bias transistor thermally coupled to the heatsinks?Ok that is what I thought. So now to find what is causing this. First thing I will replace the bias transistors but that is not it. It's strange isn't it
Joe, every amp I've ever tested , the bias jumps as soon as I turn on the generators, what I haven't done is wait and see when the bias starts dialing down...
Yes JoeAs I stated Lee, the bias servo lags the heat in the outputs as the heat has to conduct from the outputs and into the bias transistor.
Yes Joe
they are attached to the heat sink. Please see photo
I agree with you on max bias voltage. The manual goes as far as .6 volts (. Scary) see attachedBias in a solid state amp should decrease when the output stages increase in heat.
The base-emitter junction turn on voltage of NPN devices decreases as they get hotter so it is necessary to DROP the bias as the output stage heats up. If this does not occur then runaway occurs and blows fuses as you have seen.
Also bias in the .46 range is in the danger zone. That is dangerously close to the turn on voltage of a hot output semiconductor. You need to bring the maximum bias down to the 0.35-0.38V range.