overmodulated
Journeyman
yeah the Nakamichi tech said he was not working on anything but Naks. I don’t know what the difference would be.
NAD 6300
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yeah the Nakamichi tech said he was not working on anything but Naks. I don’t know what the difference would be.
overmodulated
Journeyman
Very nice.
J!m
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The issue with them is not a technical one…
overmodulated
Journeyman
I tried rejuvenating the pinch rollers with naphtha, but I think it may be one of the motors that is flat spotting, because it just stops randomly. Seems to be more prevalent TDK SA 90 tapes that came from the same batch as far as I remember. It plays Maxell XL II tapes all the way through, which makes me wonder is it really the motor, or is it something in the tape path?
edit: it seems after it heats up that it does this more often, and it is doing it even on Maxell tapes now. Sounds like the classic motor problem, and I’m looking to return this because it was supposed to be serviced. My technical ability is not there to fix this myself.
edit: it seems after it heats up that it does this more often, and it is doing it even on Maxell tapes now. Sounds like the classic motor problem, and I’m looking to return this because it was supposed to be serviced. My technical ability is not there to fix this myself.
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Bob Boyer
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Sorry to hear that. Is the deck's capabilities of real interest to you, though? If so, I'd consider getting it fixed and ask the seller to contribute to the repair. Bird in hand and all that as its appearance is good...
overmodulated
Journeyman
Hi, yes and that’s exactly what I’m trying to weigh out.
With the limited experience I’ve had with the 6300 I don’t think it sounds as good as my A&D GX-Z9100. Of course that could change if it had a good service, but what’s it going to cost to get it in good working order is the question. I’m thinking the motor rebuilt, and full service is probably going to be in the neighborhood of $500, and possibly more.
My Z9100 gets a bad rap on some of the tape deck sites, as it’s basically an Akai deck, but my experience differs, it’s performance is pretty spectacular in my opinion.
Thanks for the advice, and I am am going to definitely consider asking him for a rebate to help with repairs.
Bob Boyer
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Eh, I grow weary of internet heroes these days. I've never seen one in the wild, but that Z9100 looks to have all the capability I'd ever want. Good luck with whatever you decide - it appears that other than the potential cost, you win either way.
J!m
Veteran and General Yakker
99.85% of the internet reviewers of this crap have never recoreded a live performance and done an A-B test of the recording to be able to have any authority whatsoever.
A recorded should record, faithfully, the original material.
This is exactly what Mark Levinson went through so much trouble to make his own recordings and cut his own records so that he KNEW that what was being reproduced sounded like the actual live recording he did.
This is the brilliance of Mark that so many fail to understand.
A recorded should record, faithfully, the original material.
This is exactly what Mark Levinson went through so much trouble to make his own recordings and cut his own records so that he KNEW that what was being reproduced sounded like the actual live recording he did.
This is the brilliance of Mark that so many fail to understand.
overmodulated
Journeyman
Thanks guys.
overmodulated
Journeyman
I heard back from the retired NAD tech. He agreed it’s probably a bad reel motor, and suggested that I try to find someone with the new one. He stated that rebuilds are not reliable. It just sounded like he just didn’t want to mess with it.
It’s going to be an expensive repair and even if I got half of the money for the repair, I don’t think I’m willing to spend any money on this.
Hopefully I can get refunded.
It’s going to be an expensive repair and even if I got half of the money for the repair, I don’t think I’m willing to spend any money on this.
Hopefully I can get refunded.
Bob Boyer
Veteran and General Yakker
J!m
Veteran and General Yakker
Mark's records were 45 RPM too. I don't know if he pioneered the 45RPM "LP", but he recognized the value in that change as well...
bill7621
Chief Journeyman
If it's giving you trouble right out of the gate, which this one did, it's definitely not "Serviced" which means it's not as advertise. If you were to open it up and start messing with it, it's pretty much yours from that point on. Cleaning the heads and rollers doesn't count. Don't piddle around with it any more and request a refund. If he balks at that, tell him you'll notify paypal or ebay or however you paid as there should be buyers protection and see what he says. And then do it if he doesn't cooperate. Also, since it's not as advertised, he has to foot the return shipping bill.
overmodulated
Journeyman
Not necessarily taint my opinion, but I think that I’m a little soured on decks with this transport in it. I mean how can you really buy one unless you know that the reel motor problem has been taken care of? This is more aimed people like me that do not do their own work on their electronics. I mean I can do simple maintenance, and I’ve been messing with stereo equipment a long time, but I am electronically not capable, and I learned a long time ago that if you don’t know what you’re doing you don’t mess with it.
I will take this as a learning experience, and make absolutely certain that if I ever did buy a deck with that transport that the reel motor has been taken care of. So the only thing I’m soured on is bad sellers lol. They should not advertise something as 100% functional, and even go as far as they say that it went to a technician for observation and repair.
This being said, the deck did sound good, and it seemed to function well when it was working. I wouldn’t mind adding one at some point if I knew that the motors had been repaired (properly) or replaced. It almost seems like they have to be replaced from what I’m reading, and the rebuilds don’t last if you don’t use the machine every day. Of course that all comes from the online forums, but I’m just not willing to be a guinea pig on that transport anymore.
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overmodulated
Journeyman
Yes it was definitely not serviced correctly, and being as I paid what I thought was pretty much top dollar for it, it’s going back. He is giving me a rough time with the refund, so I did go to eBay, and he is giving me a refund, although has yet to produce a return label. I don’t want to throw anybody under the bus, and that’s not my intent, I’m just stating what happened to me. He’s being very reluctant, and I think it will go down to the last day that he has to produce a label, that he’ll actually produce one. EBay is good about that, I had to do it once before if I remember correctly.
buying vintage gear unseen is a tricky thing, but I know I wouldn’t sell anything unless I was absolutely positive it was as described.
overmodulated
Journeyman
Received my A&D GX-Z9100 back from the tech that I sent it to. There was not a lot wrong with it, but I wanted to know how the frequency response measured, and there was a little bit of an issue with the door not closing on occasion. I also noticed that the one channel according to the meters on the deck (which I know are not always accurate) seem to be recording a little bit lower than the other. The tech adjusted that and everything seems to be working perfect, and the deck records and plays very nicely. I don’t really have a reason to go any further than this deck, I can barely distinguish between source and tape when recording.
However they must have jarred it, because the door was out of place, and there is a guide, or hinge that fits into a certain spot on the door that was out of place. Put it gently back on, and it works correctly.
The NAD 6300 is being returned, and it’s out for delivery right now. Maybe in the future I can get one that’s had the reel motor problem corrected, but for right now I’m happy with what I have.
However they must have jarred it, because the door was out of place, and there is a guide, or hinge that fits into a certain spot on the door that was out of place. Put it gently back on, and it works correctly.
The NAD 6300 is being returned, and it’s out for delivery right now. Maybe in the future I can get one that’s had the reel motor problem corrected, but for right now I’m happy with what I have.
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Your A&D GX-Z9100 is a more-than-capable deck. And once you've become accustomed to using it, it's harder to find favour with a new acquisition. I thought the same of my Esoteric V-9000, until I began using my Pioneer CT-A9X for recording duties. You just become acquainted to a deck and its features and it becomes a new learning experience when you begin using a deck you are not as familar with.
Nando.
Nando.
J!m
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That is a rather profound statement there Nando.
Sometimes, your familiarity with an old device trumps the "superior" specs of a new one.
Sometimes, your familiarity with an old device trumps the "superior" specs of a new one.
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My first serious recording deck for recording mix tapes was my Pioneer CT-F1250. And I have a hankering to use it again for recording.
Back when I had the CT-F1250 as my main recording deck, then moved onto the Esoteric V-9000 (pictured above the CT-F1250) for a number of years:
My third CT-F1250 and the one I kept. I bought it from the original owner and it came complete with packing carton, etc.
Cell phone video, after its first service since 1979, playing Shaun's @pioneercollector mix tape:
Nando.
Back when I had the CT-F1250 as my main recording deck, then moved onto the Esoteric V-9000 (pictured above the CT-F1250) for a number of years:
My third CT-F1250 and the one I kept. I bought it from the original owner and it came complete with packing carton, etc.
Cell phone video, after its first service since 1979, playing Shaun's @pioneercollector mix tape:
Nando.