David's Phase Linear 700B Thread

laatsch55 · Sep 1, 2013

My pair of Super K's with another K bass bin on top of the first complete speaker. Bottom K has 15" Crites 1526s woof. Midrange horn is a Martelli "Tractix" wood horn designed for a 2" throat driver, that driver being the B & C DCM-50. Tweet is a Crites CT-125. Top bass bin would have the same Crites 1526S woof. Tri-amped with a WOPL 1000 for each pair of woofs, a PL400 for the mids and a Spec 2 for the tweets, all thios being run through a Pioneer D-23 electronic crossover.

laatsch55 · Sep 1, 2013

Did you find some dealers?? I paid 60.00/ pair for mine and I think the Larrt gave me a pretty good deal. He was a dealer at one time. When outfits won't publish prices, to me that means a lot of wiggle room, and makes me a wee bit suspicious. Ya know the -"e-mail for a quote". Not all of those have been bad inquiries though....

Phase Linear Phanatic · Sep 1, 2013

Yeah, when you start talking bi-amping and tri-amping, and even possibly running multiple audio sources, patch cable costs can add up fast. At $60 a pair, make that real fast. I wouldn't call my gear "audiophile quality" by any means. But I'm not lookin for the run of the mill radioshack RCA interconnects either. Have heard audioquest is respectable? Lots of markup on that though? And i went to the first site that came up on goole search for that Lee. Tara Labs themselves. Couldn't find any pricing. I guess it's not "direct to consumer" then. More manufacturer to dealer. Like cars. Sometimes though, like Oppo; you get to buy direct. All depends. But I am hoping that none of my gear (including my electronic xover) is adding to that hum issue. Cause patch cable good or bad, there IS a transformer in that thing and every component that stands in the way of the signal coming from my preamp; just adds another possibility for introducing interference. Equalizers, xovers....etc. direct source is hard to do when running multiple amps. Although its preferred.

If I put up my four 350lb. Speakers up against your tri-amp system, with two PL700B's bi amped, (one being totally WOA) and run them in a four ohm load; you'd see sixteen 12" woofs, thirty two 2" tweets and eight 6" mids blowing around 2,800 watts at ya. Sound about right? You suuuuuuuure you want to get in the ring with the heavy weights? ;-)

dem sounds like fightin words to me? Lets brawl bucko! Lol! :happy4:

laatsch55 · Sep 1, 2013

There were a few threads on AK about building your own interconnects and some were damn good. They were running Mongami cable(I'll get the number) and some good rca ends. AS long as they were gold plated any reputable rca jack manufacturer should do.

My K's have that thump you in the chest bass that I so dearly love, yet the rest is so clear it does bring tears to my eyes some times. And to have both systems in the same place and up and running would be like a week long fishin tripo to me----just F&^%$# awesome....

Phase Linear Phanatic · Sep 1, 2013

laatsch55 said:

Ha haaa.......... I hear ya on that one. Once I become independently wealthy, I'll look into the cost of having these things moved across states and to your cave and back. Add in the additional vacation time I can spare and heeyaaa! We have a DUEL good sir! :toothy10:

laatsch55 · Sep 2, 2013

Here's a link to a very good thread on DIY cables. I know the author of the thread. His systems are VERY REVEALING and if he says these are good, count on it.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=239120

The cable he's using is Mogami-Neglex 2534 "Quad" microphone cable. It has 4 conductors that he pairs up for ease of signal passing. Price is 1.29/ft from markertec. A good gold plated rca male end shouldn't be over 5.00 bucks. These wind up being a very good IC. If I hadn't bought so many off of Larrt, I'd be building myself a lot of these.

Phase Linear Phanatic · Sep 6, 2013

I'm going to try that Lee. Just gotta find time.......................................

laatsch55 · Sep 6, 2013

Next to the wife and kods the most prescious thing there is.

Phase Linear Phanatic · Sep 8, 2013

The End is Nigh.......

Well; I have reached a decision with Jerry. We fixed the problem without fixing the problem. Seems like I decided to use my spare PL700B in place of my white oaked version lab standard. No hum, no matter how I mess with the inputs. So I will stick with that. Jerry has become the proud owner of the WOAPL 700B. It does not hum in his set up and sounds KILLER! So we worked out a deal and this project has come to a conclusion.

I cranked my beasts up today with the factory PL 700B's bi-amped, to concert levels, and my ears are still ringing. I think that is good enough for a man who lives on a 1/4 acre lot. The police like me here and I intend to keep it that way; so no red-lining for an hour. I am not as bold as LEE! LOL!

But it serves my needs. My WANTS however include about 50 acres of private land, and an anechoic chamber in the basement, with four white oaked PL 700B's running my four massive speakers. But that's like winning the lottery. So for now, I am happy with the end result.

Wonderful project and great learning experience. My God the knowledge on this forum from Lee, Jerry, Joe, Doug, Nando, Dennis :confused2:

, and everyone else has been amazing!! And thanks to Jerry for his MORE than accommodating solutions. He is GREAT to work with. He has even been nice enough to grant any future work I need done on anything else for modest labor costs.

Thanks Phoenix!!!

-David

Northwinds · Sep 8, 2013

laatsch55 said:

That folks is the recipe for Thermo Nuclear Destruction right there, sound waves could probably knock over one of those stupid Honda's with the giant muffler and body rattling boom systems passing by at 60mph

jbeckva · Sep 8, 2013

Phase Linear Phanatic said:

Just a damn shame I haven't YET been able to enjoy it with the other 700, driving two sets. Work this weekend has been.. a... BEEOTCH. I gotta push away (clay) from this keyboard right now...

Yep, what Dave said... hehe. Dave has been nothing but patient and gracious all around, and I figured it was a good idear when Dave mentioned it. It was either that or wait for another "B" to surface ... then order... then solder.. then install... then tweak... Hey .. didn't I do that already?? :scratch:

In any case, this "B" is a very very good looker to boot... almost makes me want to do my series I up again on the outside. :thumbright:

But.. I know it won't be but a few weeks and I'll get that "itch" again for another WO project. I might tho send a 400 out "on recon" prior to committing tho.. LOL.

In the meantime... I could relax a lil with maybe my M80... wonder if I can get the WO board to fit.. hmmmmmmm... (Joe's going "whaaaaaaaa???" right now, I can tell... )

Phase Linear Phanatic · Sep 8, 2013

I will wait for the fully complimentary boards to come out from Joe. THEN, I will send all four amps I have at my disposal in and have them overhauled. He hee. I will take all four of my 350 pound speakers, (16 12" woofers, eight mids, thirty two tweets), four PL700B's WOA'd over to Lee's house and CRANK it! After the pools of blood drip down of the sides of our face from our ears; we'll see who still has ears left! LOL! And declare the winner! I know he'd like the friendly face-off. But all in due time my wonderful Phoenix Phriends. Muwaa haaa haaa! :laughing2:

Sorry to have given you the work plague Jerr. It sucks. I never get my weekly Phase Phix in because of it! You know what you got and I hope you get the chance to play! It's cosmetically beautiful and hot rodded inside, so you just may be tempted to make the swap from your series I to the "B"? He he! Nothing sounds sweeter than your own work in action eh?

laatsch55 · Sep 8, 2013

Northwinds said:

Yep...

laatsch55 · Sep 8, 2013

Phase Linear Phanatic said:

I will wait for the fully complimentary boards to come out from Joe. THEN, I will send all four amps I have at my disposal in and have them overhauled. He hee. I will take all four of my 350 pound speakers, (16 12" woofers, eight mids, thirty two tweets), four PL700B's WOA'd over to Lee's house and CRANK it! After the pools of blood drip down of the sides of our face from our ears; we'll see who still has ears left! LOL! And declare the winner! I know he'd like the friendly face-off. But all in due time my wonderful Phoenix Phriends. Muwaa haaa haaa! :laughing2:

Sorry to have given you the work plague Jerr. It sucks. I never get my weekly Phase Phix in because of it! You know what you got and I hope you get the chance to play! It's cosmetically beautiful and hot rodded inside, so you just may be tempted to make the swap from your series I to the "B"? He he! Nothing sounds sweeter than your own work in action eh?

Amen Dave. Letting my ears rest today, pretty hard on em yesterday....

jbeckva · Sep 8, 2013

laatsch55 said:

I never had a chance.. all weekend.... She-bear would KILL me if I actually went past 7 oclock on the volume.. heheh (actually surprised she hasn't done it yet... got a lil thump on this Crystal Method tune.. :thumbright:

)

jbeckva · Sep 8, 2013

ps.. She-bear DID get me... :scratch:

damn... ah well.. there's tomorrow.. :toothy10:

Phase Linear Phanatic · Sep 9, 2013

Nice Jerr. I will admit. Those lights in the series one look really good? Joe doesn't have one for that? How'd you go about it?

I see my bolts there. Be advised I am sending my gal to the Shipping office tomorrow to send you the rack handles. Shud get them in a few days. Meanwhile, the spare B has it's own handles that await the swap. And I'll put her back in the system. Sorry about the she bear? Mine just says; "that's it? Go louder!" :toothy10:

When I do, I can actually prove I can blow her pants off without touching them! Thanks PL 700B!!

derek92994 · Sep 9, 2013

jbeckva said:

Who is She-Bear? I'm guessing who it might be. They call them "Handbrakes" here in australia, e.g. "I'm going to the pub"...(handbrake engages) "no you're not!!"

jbeckva · Sep 9, 2013

Phase Linear Phanatic said:

Your bolts are on their way with the woofs. Had some I could spare til the rack handles arrive.

No biggie about shebear LOL... it's kind of a game we play.

derek92994 · Sep 9, 2013

jbeckva said:

Ahh cool, so you don't have to turn it down? :toothy10:

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