Skynyrd77's Thank Godamighty , Finally My Own WOPL Build Thread!!

[Skynyrd77]

Well!! It still ain't quite right. It runs for a min then blows the reset on the generator. And I can feel the motor housing gettin warm also.. I just kept bumping it till it finally took off. Now just got to fig out why its gettin hot and popping breaker lol.

 

[pennysdad]

Well!! It still ain't quite right. It runs for a min then blows the reset on the generator. And I can feel the motor housing gettin warm also.. I just kept bumping it till it finally took off. Now just got to fig out why its gettin hot and popping breaker lol.

if ur motor has brushes/bushes, then they may be worn/grooved. they'll need to be pulled and squared off.
contacting too much off the armature and shorting between commutators.

 

[JustMike]

Well!! It still ain't quite right. It runs for a min then blows the reset on the generator. And I can feel the motor housing gettin warm also.. I just kept bumping it till it finally took off. Now just got to fig out why its gettin hot and popping breaker lol.

Hi Jason.
Is this a shallow well pump?
Sounds like its pulling too many amps from possible bearing drag.

 

[laatsch55]

I know you have a meter.....let's check motor leads for resistance then each lead to ground...

 

[Skynyrd77]

Hi Jason.
Is this a shallow well pump?
Sounds like its pulling too many amps from possible bearing drag.

Its a deep well 3/4 horse f@w. But it's a surface pump not in the well. So the motor sits on pump and pump bolts onto well itself. It hasn't been ran in 3 years and is in a pit in the yard so it's rusty and dirty. But it does sound like it could be bearings ..

 

[Skynyrd77]

I know you have a meter.....let's check motor leads for resistance then each lead to ground...

I'll grab my meter and head out there. How do I go about checking it lee. What do I set meter at ?

 

[laatsch55]

The lowest ohms setting, then check berween the motor leads, then put one lead on the motor case then check each lead from the motor to the case. I'm inclined to agree with Mike, stiff or damaged bearings can get you in two ways...if you lose clearance because of a worn bearing the rotor and stators can touch and then if not that the increased torque from as bad bearinmg can overamp your motor. How many amps is the motor rated for and how big is the breaker on the generator??

 

[JustMike]

The lowest ohms setting, then check berween the motor leads, then put one lead on the motor case then check each lead from the motor to the case. I'm inclined to agree with Mike, stiff or damaged bearings can get you in two ways...if you lose clearance because of a worn bearing the rotor and stators can touch and then if not that the increased torque from as bad bearinmg can overamp your motor. How many amps is the motor rated for and how big is the breaker on the generator??

Lee now that we know there is rust involved, I couldn't agree with you more on the electrical side. Rust makes a great
resistor.
Jason make sure buddy power is isolated (OFF!!) before the ohm test .But you knew that right?

 

[Skynyrd77]

 

[JustMike]

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Man that is some ugly install work. And looks like a shock waiting to happen. GFI ?? With the pump being vertical, wouldn't
take much water to put the hurt on the windings.
Looks like a start over. Be safe buddy.

 

[laatsch55]

She looks rough bud but I've seen rougher run for a long time....wish you had an amprobe....any way let's see what the windings ohm at then we'll see about to ground.. You have a single phase motor in a hi torque start situation so there are some start and run caps some where, they could be contributing to the hi amp draw too....what is the amp rating on the breaker you keep tripping?

 

[Northwinds]

I am familiar with that problem. In my neighbors case, exposed like yours, his armature's exposed sections got corroded in the case. We got it going again by spraying penatrate in and kicking it on until enough rust was pushed out. You might try that if all else fails. Sounds like your is maybe just enough corroded that it's not making contact like the Brothers said regarding the brushes and dragging

 

[Skynyrd77]

I'm not sure what there rated at. It's not blowin the big button. Only the reset on the outlet itself. I put my meter to ohm and got nothing with power off. I got nothing also from one to the motor housing..

 

[Northwinds]

View attachment 15715 I'm not sure what there rated at. It's not blowin the big button. Only the reset on the outlet itself. I put my meter to ohm and got nothing with power off. I got nothing also from one to the motor housing..

Probably good it's tripping GFI. I use one of those plug inboxes with the swimming pool motor and saltwater generator for just such emergencies

 

[laatsch55]

Look like 15 amp GFCI outlets..... Jase, look for some start and run caps?? Are there any?

 

[Northwinds]

Off course I know dick about electronics , just speculating LOL

 

[Skynyrd77]

These are on my 10000watt generator. Man I'm prob gonna have to run power back out there from a breaker. It's 125ft away from box lol. That's why I was trying the generator lol

 

[laatsch55]

Jase that's a dual voltage motor, sure it's wired for 115? If it's got a standard 115 plug chances are good it is....a 230 volt motor running at 115 will act just like that one is....a 115 volt motor running on 230 will trip the breaker instantly..

 

[Skynyrd77]

Look like 15 amp GFCI outlets..... Jase, look for some start and run caps?? Are there any?

I can't see nothing. Unless I pull the motor housing off. In the pic u can see everything I can.

 

[laatsch55]

A motor tripping a GFCI breaker does not mean anything is bad, to truly check it out you need a standard breaker......