Skynyrd77's Thank Godamighty , Finally My Own WOPL Build Thread!!

JustMike said:
Hi Jason.
Is this a shallow well pump?
Sounds like its pulling too many amps from possible bearing drag.
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Its a deep well 3/4 horse f@w. But it's a surface pump not in the well. So the motor sits on pump and pump bolts onto well itself. It hasn't been ran in 3 years and is in a pit in the yard so it's rusty and dirty. But it does sound like it could be bearings ..
 
The lowest ohms setting, then check berween the motor leads, then put one lead on the motor case then check each lead from the motor to the case. I'm inclined to agree with Mike, stiff or damaged bearings can get you in two ways...if you lose clearance because of a worn bearing the rotor and stators can touch and then if not that the increased torque from as bad bearinmg can overamp your motor. How many amps is the motor rated for and how big is the breaker on the generator??
 
laatsch55 said:
The lowest ohms setting, then check berween the motor leads, then put one lead on the motor case then check each lead from the motor to the case. I'm inclined to agree with Mike, stiff or damaged bearings can get you in two ways...if you lose clearance because of a worn bearing the rotor and stators can touch and then if not that the increased torque from as bad bearinmg can overamp your motor. How many amps is the motor rated for and how big is the breaker on the generator??
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Lee now that we know there is rust involved, I couldn't agree with you more on the electrical side. Rust makes a great
resistor.
Jason make sure buddy power is isolated (OFF!!) before the ohm test .But you knew that right?
 
She looks rough bud but I've seen rougher run for a long time....wish you had an amprobe....any way let's see what the windings ohm at then we'll see about to ground.. You have a single phase motor in a hi torque start situation so there are some start and run caps some where, they could be contributing to the hi amp draw too....what is the amp rating on the breaker you keep tripping?
 
I am familiar with that problem. In my neighbors case, exposed like yours, his armature's exposed sections got corroded in the case. We got it going again by spraying penatrate in and kicking it on until enough rust was pushed out. You might try that if all else fails. Sounds like your is maybe just enough corroded that it's not making contact like the Brothers said regarding the brushes and dragging
 
image.jpgI'm not sure what there rated at. It's not blowin the big button. Only the reset on the outlet itself. I put my meter to ohm and got nothing with power off. I got nothing also from one to the motor housing..
 
Skynyrd77 said:
View attachment 15715I'm not sure what there rated at. It's not blowin the big button. Only the reset on the outlet itself. I put my meter to ohm and got nothing with power off. I got nothing also from one to the motor housing..
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Probably good it's tripping GFI. I use one of those plug inboxes with the swimming pool motor and saltwater generator for just such emergencies
 
Look like 15 amp GFCI outlets..... Jase, look for some start and run caps?? Are there any?
 
These are on my 10000watt generator. Man I'm prob gonna have to run power back out there from a breaker. It's 125ft away from box lol. That's why I was trying the generator lol
 
Jase that's a dual voltage motor, sure it's wired for 115? If it's got a standard 115 plug chances are good it is....a 230 volt motor running at 115 will act just like that one is....a 115 volt motor running on 230 will trip the breaker instantly..
 
A motor tripping a GFCI breaker does not mean anything is bad, to truly check it out you need a standard breaker......
 
laatsch55 said:
Jase that's a dual voltage motor, sure it's wired for 115? If it's got a standard 115 plug chances are good it is....a 230 volt motor running at 115 will act just like that one is....a 115 volt motor running on 230 will trip the breaker instantly..
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Thats a damn good ? Lee. I have forgot how I had that in my trailor breaker box. But I bet your right. I bet my dumb ass is trying it wrong. I bet it is wired at 220
 
laatsch55 said:
Jase that's a dual voltage motor, sure it's wired for 115? If it's got a standard 115 plug chances are good it is....a 230 volt motor running at 115 will act just like that one is....a 115 volt motor running on 230 will trip the breaker instantly..
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I was thinking the same thing Lee.
Jason the start/run cap(s) should be under that little removable half round cover on the side of the motor.
 
The small cylinder on the side of it is a start cap cover...that's why ya got nothing on the ohms test, put your meter accross the two spades you would normally plug into the generator......also note that a single phase motor with a start cap usually has a switch to throw it out after the motor gets up to speed and that an be fucking with you too..
 
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