The K-Horns are coming ! The K-Horns are coming !!!!

Where you been Scratch?

Kevin, like me, owns NO COUNTRY MUSIC. Don't like it. A lot of people do, but not he and not me.
 
Where you been Scratch?

Kevin, like me, owns NO COUNTRY MUSIC. Don't like it. A lot of people do, but not he and not me.

Lee has marked me for Life Sutton... I'm just a Hillbilly.... I'll always be just a hillbilly to all these guys.... Lmao.... I'd say it would be real funny to know how these guys picture me.... You just wait.... Somebody will show me !!!!! :toothy5:
 
I guess we will be seeing a pcture of the Beverly Hillbillies clan, or maybe something from Deuling Banjos or the like, very shortly. Who do you think will post it?
 
You know Kev... if ya put on some bee boppin BASS tunez, they might just work 'em in good. Getting better ya say, so that is always a good thing.

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IM BAACK.. heheh (man ... the "cave" here in the physical sense never felt so good after 72 hours of getting beat up.. :laughing7:)
 
Moby-"Play" track 4, Shpongle.."Tales of the Inexpressible" track 2, The Crystal Method.."Vegas" track 4...

At or near Mach 7 will loosen em up.......on a 700..... allow for 15 minutes of voice coil cooling between songs.....


Good Luck young Hillwalker.......and may the bass be with you!!
 
Moby-"Play" track 4, Shpongle.."Tales of the Inexpressible" track 2, The Crystal Method.."Vegas" track 4...

At or near Mach 7 will loosen em up.......on a 700..... allow for 15 minutes of voice coil cooling between songs.....


Good Luck young Hillwalker.......and may the bass be with you!!

Hillwalker..... LMAO... That's a new one... So I'm going to take that as Jerry and Lee says that time and power will help them... Cool... And... Sutton says the same.... I know one thing... I love these things.... They are so damn Loud and clean !!!! The top end lacks NOTHING !!!!!!!!
 
See, that's totally opposite on my end.....the bass is phenomenal, and I don't think the ROOM has as much to do with that as other speakers.....as far as I know " a tough room" just requires a wee bit more volume.....


BUT!!!! In light of this conundrum I shall consult a man that owns 3 pairs of these beauties.....TBC...
 
From my past experiences on redoing the crossovers on my SDA's the same phenomenon you describe is exactly what I heard when I redid the crossovers. Give them some time to break in. You should notice an improvement in the 500hr range. YMMV I have even heard of 1000 hrs to be completely broken in. If you can don't turn them off if you want a sooner break-in period.:occasion5:
 
I have concluded an hour long phone call withg Stephen Evans, my bud in Phoenix and said owner of 3 pairs of K's.

Some quick answers.....the woofs do sound better as time goes on......that time varies according to the quantity and rate of elkectrons fed to said woofs....

The room......Kev, Google the "golden ratio" it was a pet peeve of PWK for speaker placement. The K's are not perfect , because they are a compromise like any speaker system...BUT.....if you like horns they are the closest answer to perfect as I've heard and Stephen also when certain condfitions are met. Having 2 corners for the cabs at the long side of a rectangular room is preferable. Having walls made of very stiff material is essential to transmitting the bass energy out of the cabs, around the corner and into the room. Having no discontinuities (doorways, windows, etc) HELPS , but does not kill the bass response.
My room is 12'6" X 25' 3" with 8 ft ceilings. I have one door opening opposite the speaker wall. The wall opposite the speaker wall and one short wall are 2 X 4 stick with 5/8 sheetrock. The other 3 are cement firred out and sheetrocked. The K's bass response , Stephen says are down 3db at 30 hz, I would love to measure mine cause my ears dispute that....anyway......the bass from a K is tight and fast, as it is in a live performanmce. Every sub I've heard is flabby , mushy, whatever term you want to use. Run your sub the same time you run our K's then flip the sub switch off and tell me what you notice...
On Tim's Soni's during track 4 on Moby's "Play" album the bass is almost too much for the Soni's, those deep , distinctive bass notes almost smear, or BLEND together, The K's are a long ways from it, and a sub will do it,(the ones I've heard do)..that is what sets the K's apart. It's not that they'll GO LOW, but that they go low and still retain their RESOLUTION....that was the genius of Paul's design. Some of what you think you are missing MAY be that lack of smearing....some may be your room.

Electrons as the beloved Larrt puts it are PFM, (pure fucking magic) ya can't see em, but ya know they're there, and they are unpredictable little bastards....gotta love em.

You say the highs and mids are missing nothing......well they are they're missing some bass to go along with them and that my friend was the last thing I thought I would hear from you when you described em...

I will make you a proposal Kev....if you get them in a rectangular room , and you can put them on the long wall, and you still are not flabbergasted, I will buy them back AND PAY shipping cause I don't want you to be less than thrilled with them. Now don't get all defensive and prattle about this or that, this is from one friend to another, if you are not TOTALLY happy with em no problem I'll take em back.....I mean that. And it won't be a hardship on me. I would keep them only long enough to see if there was something amiss and they would be going back out as soon as I knew there wasn't or fixed the problem. BUT...before that happens we have some patience and some placement to try. I still believe in my heart you'll get em right and love em like I do, I saw your face when mine hit their stride when you were in THE CHAIR.....
 
It's only a matter of time, and playing them in. The sub he has is no ordinary sub, though. It is a Lambda Acoustics 15" driver, handmade by Nick McKinney in Florida, and is a true brute. The enclosure is double 3/4" MDF and 3/4" Ply......and braced internally with 2"X4" studs..it is a tuned box, and is not flabby at all. Not your ordinary sub. That being said, Kevin and I have built many speakers, and know that break-in time in imperative to get the driver to really perform. and I know the K's will come to life and will be scary good...

His room is awesome too. A BIG rectangular space.....perfect ..only thing he is missing is .....well nothing..

I want a pair of K's damn it.
 
Damn !!! I went to bed to early !!!! About 10 Or before I think... LOL...Now I got so much to say I don't know where to start !! Nav !!! You probally said it all in that little statement !!! Lee... Thank you for making that call !!! That was some good stuff there !! Like I told Sutton yesterday,,, I have been reading for three days ! One dude said he had a pair in three different houses.. And every time he moved his bass changed !!! One of the places he said he had no bass !!! Other two the bass was unreal.... By no means has the thought ever crossed my mind that I might part with these monsters !!!!! I've only wanted a pair for 30 some years !!!!!!!!!! 11th grade i believe it was... I'd say the day is close when I turn them on and they knock me right out the door !!!! I guess I just expected to turn them on and they sound like yours Lee... Right off the bat !!!! Hell... I've still got a living room upstairs that is all carpet. I might just take them up there one day and see what that does... Anyway..... It's way to early to be judging them... Another thing.... Most people would walk in my living room and ask me if I had lost my mind.... I AM BEING SO PICKY when I say the bass isnt right... I mean hell... They shake them damn couch !!!! The sound and quality of sound is so good in there that Sutton and I took a pair of 2000 dollar a pair Paradigm studio monitors out of there and parked them in my garage... Lol... I moved the Line arrays to the rear !!!! So... I am very very happy with the K's.... Next thing is to build me a little wall to complete a corner and then put the 700 on them and Play away !!!!!!!!!!!
 
Them K's outta eat 2,000.00 speaks for breakfast and still be hungry....

No doubt they'll come around...are they in the long side corners??
 
Them K's outta eat 2,000.00 speaks for breakfast and still be hungry....

No doubt they'll come around...are they in the long side corners??

O lord yea they do !!!! I was only using the Paradigm for the rear surround !!!! Now... If I want to I can run four channel stereo !!!! K's on the front and the linas array's on the rear !!!! WOW !!! Yea... They will come around.. They already are ! No Lee..They are on the 16 foot wall... Not sure they will fit on the 32 foot wall.. It would be real close... Thats another thing I'm going to look at... Before I put them in the room I thought they would... But when ya get them in there they are alot bigger than they look sitting in the garage !!! Once again I want to say that the damn things sound unreal !!!! I would hate for anyone to think that I am not satisfied with em... If I had never heard yours we wouldn't be having any of this conversation.... The mid and low volume bass on your's was... and IS.. like nothing I have ever heard !!!!!!! And I want these to do that !!!! LMAO.. SEE... SEE WHAT YA DID TO ME !!!!!!!!!!!! I'M RUINED !!!!! But your right... They will get there !!!
 
I knew you were roont when you sat in the chair....another pic I came accross today...

I had a 700 on the D9's, a Spec 2 on the K's, and a 400 on each pair of Heresy's...
 

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My goodness !!!!!! I bet that sounded good.... And loud !!! When was that ?
 
4 years ago....hell, maybe 5...that was before the K's upgrade...
 
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