Speaker Cable

[Web Police]

Ha on the cyro treated wires. I've got some new fangled oxidized treated copper speaker cables. If oxidation is good enough for Domed Cathedral roofs then it should sound like Davinci through the speakers, or something like that.

After all it is only oxidixed on the surface and protected by the clear wire insulation. I wonder if this wire was on the Titanic?

It is `12 gauge, I'll let you gage how much is copper and how much is oxidation?

 

[JustMike]

Thanks - I'm going to see what's available locally, but I'll keep Monoprice in mind. Do they take PayPal?

Hey Laz,
This is the 'Talet' wire I was using the day you came over. And they take Paypal.

http://www.parts-express.com/talent-sc12100-12-awg-2-conductor-speaker-cable-100-ft--101-316

Not a bad price, good wire.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Thanks, Mike. I well remember how your system sounded. I just sent the seller a report, and will see how she responds. I'm glad the folks here are so helpful!

 

[ksrigg]

Here is the Monoprice equivalent for half the price...

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2

 

[Lazarus Short]

Here is the Monoprice equivalent for half the price...

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2

That's good, but I want to be able to see the wires, so I know if they're turning dark and/or green. See the photo Mr Web posted above. I'm inclining toward the Monoprice 2747.

EDIT: The seller has kindly offered me a refund, and neither of us is being hateful about it. It's all good. I see copper ahead!

 

[ksrigg]

You can definitely see through the jacket of the 2747. I wonder is the resistance changes with the oxidation of the copper? Anyway, at the price Monoprice sells wire for, it isn't that expensive to just replace it..

 

[Lazarus Short]

​I am refunded! Now off to Monoprice...

EDIT: The above was posted May 2nd. Today, May 11th, the wire arrived. Versus the CCA wire at 1.4 ohms per 29 feet, this wire is 0.1 - 0.2 ohms per 25 feet. Much better, and the sound from the speakers is much better.

 

[tivali]

I have recommended these to others on the forum and everyone that has tried these is quite impressed. They are heavy, about 3/4" in thickness and made of both Oxygen Free Copper and Silver. Kevin will prepare them in any length and terminate them any way that you would like. But, due to their weight they are a bit expensive to ship from Taiwan. Kevin is using the best Chinese materials (same as a lot of the big name makers) and has low overhead and labor costs because he is in Taiwan. But, the quality, workmanship, performance, and cost to value are extraordinary. Kevin could probably quite possibly charge 5 to 10X the cost. I know someone that compared them to what had at one time been $22,000 list price MIT cables and he preferred Kevin's.

Others on the site that have them include John and BlurayFred. Other members of the community that are considering getting these are Lou (Hammie) and Sean. I just ordered a 10m set of 2 each (bi-wire) set for my side surrounds. I have these also on my main front L, R, can C speakers.

 

[R1200S]

I have recommended these to others on the forum and everyone that has tried these is quite impressed. They are heavy, about 3/4" in thickness and made of both Oxygen Free Copper and Silver. Kevin will prepare them in any length and terminate them any way that you would like. But, due to their weight they are a bit expensive to ship from Taiwan. Kevin is using the best Chinese materials (same as a lot of the big name makers) and has low overhead and labor costs because he is in Taiwan. But, the quality, workmanship, performance, and cost to value are extraordinary. Kevin could probably quite possibly charge 5 to 10X the cost. I know someone that compared them to what had at one time been $22,000 list price MIT cables and he preferred Kevin's.

Others on the site that have them include John and BlurayFred. Other members of the community that are considering getting these are Lou (Hammie) and Sean. I just ordered a 10m set of 2 each (bi-wire) set for my side surrounds. I have these also on my main front L, R, can C speakers.

Who exactly are you referring to when you say Kevin? I'm looking for cables right now! Thanks

 

[Fishoz]

Curious...what does a 10m set of bi-wire run? That's a pretty long throw.

 

[Northwinds]

Yeah, I am wondering what these cost since low overhead and cheap cost of materials. I have huge thick Monster Cable lines but they are only about 8ft long each and I want a pair at least 20ft long each

 

[Fishoz]

Might want to check out Maze Audio on ebay. I don't think he has any bi-wires out there now but he can make custom. Should be around $200 for a short throw. I like his materials, looks good. I have bought a set of jumpers that are great. Haven't jumped on his bi-wires yet - made my own from Monsters but sooner or later will make a change.

 

[62vauxhall]

Kimber 4PR / 8PR or 4VS / 8VS is ideal for bi-wiring because you only need 1 length of cable.

I've been using 4VS in that manner for 22 years. Started with 2 runs of 35' but moved to a smaller place 14 years ago so cut the runs down to 12'.

I see on their website now a 12VS but I bet it's not cheap. It's got to mean something if they still produce the same wire unaltered for so many years.

 

[laatsch55]

I'm still using #10, THHN......

 

[grapplesaw]

I am using #12 twisted pairs Teflon silver 19 strand
a bit stiff but works good.