Record Pucks, Clamps, Stabilizers

Mine's a Nagaoka RC-410, and grips the spindle with metal fingers, much like the old-style drafting pencils. On the top, it has cream-colored pile for stylus cleaning. I don't know if it works any better than what Northwinds uses...
 

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Bwahahahhahaaaa I was just joking around! They look cool and obviously work. I just have a push on Yamaha one that doubles as a 45rpm adapter. I have only run across a few really warped records that benefitted and those were the Dynaflex pressings. I have seen some pretty thin import pressings from a few former Eastern Bloc countries that needed them. I'd love a big brass one just for the pure atheistic value alone I would not use it for records that do not need it though. I would imagine the benefit of using it all the time would add mass to the overall TT for more dampening
 
I used to use one of these but it kept bending my tone arm.

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Now that this thread is a cement head, I'll post some listening results from years ago.

Kenwood offered a heavy ceramic platter mat, center weight and peripheral weight as accessories for the KD-600/650 turntable back in the day. We had the weights in the store and we put them on some tt, we usually had a Luxman PD-441 in the sound room. With just the weight there was some improvement but with both weights the bass tightened very nicely and the sound was more controlled. It was a very nice improvement but installing all that for each record was too much work.

Since then I have picked up a KD-600 that came with a record clamp that clamps onto the spindle, push down and tighten and a T-55c that came with the 486 gram weight. I use both when I feel like it. A difference, sure, but I'm not so serious about it to use all the time. Both tables were built to handle the extra weight.

You can see what the HK weight looks like with a web search for images. I like it because is has a strobe on the top. Good for my main tables which do not have speed adjustment, the quartz locked KD and a TD-160 Super.

I've asked on a different board and no one can identify the record clamp. Probably bought new in the mid-80s.
 

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8991XJ said:
Now that this thread is a cement head, I'll post some listening results from years ago.

Kenwood offered a heavy ceramic platter mat, center weight and peripheral weight as accessories for the KD-600/650 turntable back in the day. We had the weights in the store and we put them on some tt, we usually had a Luxman PD-441 in the sound room. With just the weight there was some improvement but with both weights the bass tightened very nicely and the sound was more controlled. It was a very nice improvement but installing all that for each record was too much work.

Since then I have picked up a KD-600 that came with a record clamp that clamps onto the spindle, push down and tighten and a T-55c that came with the 486 gram weight. I use both when I feel like it. A difference, sure, but I'm not so serious about it to use all the time. Both tables were built to handle the extra weight.

You can see what the HK weight looks like with a web search for images. I like it because is has a strobe on the top. Good for my main tables which do not have speed adjustment, the quartz locked KD and a TD-160 Super.

I've asked on a different board and no one can identify the record clamp. Probably bought new in the mid-80s.
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You state both tables built to handle extra weight. In what way? Upgrade motor? And..is there a strain on the motor? Just curious, trying to rationalize adding a pound to my platter and not straining my belt or motor.
 
Look at Derek's avatar...if a ten pound cat can go for a spin (or a dachshund for that matter)...
 
Fishoz said:
You state both tables built to handle extra weight. In what way? Upgrade motor? And..is there a strain on the motor? Just curious, trying to rationalize adding a pound to my platter and not straining my belt or motor.
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The turntable used makes a big difference, a Thorens suspension table can need to be modified if using a weight type, it adds enough weight to cause sag to the suspension thus altering the vector of the stylus to the platter and record, on the proper table a weight will add mass to the platter and after the initial start up should help the platter to maintain a more constant speed and inertia as well as holding it firmly to the platter.

Jim

the wheels on the bus go round and round.
 
Fairchild said:
The turntable used makes a big difference, a Thorens suspension table can need to be modified if using a weight type, it adds enough weight to cause sag to the suspension thus altering the vector of the stylus to the platter and record, on the proper table a weight will add mass to the platter and after the initial start up should help the platter to maintain a more constant speed and inertia as well as holding it firmly to the platter.

Jim

the wheels on the bus go round and round.
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This is the last thing I need to start lol. I'll have a million bucks wraped up into stuff . Like interconnects. I got prob a grand worth.
 
Fishoz said:
You state both tables built to handle extra weight. In what way? Upgrade motor? And..is there a strain on the motor? Just curious, trying to rationalize adding a pound to my platter and not straining my belt or motor.
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In the case of both my tables, the manufacturer made weights an optional accessory. Thorens has a weight and Kenwood provided the kit with heavy platter, ring weight and center weight.

Sure it is a bit heavier than just the platter but it won't kill the table.

The thorens has a new thrust plate to help make it right, too.
 
System changes have me bringing up this thread again. My joking instinct is now questioned.

My Pro-Ject TT has an acrylic platter - a mat is not recommended. The Pro-Ject record puck is the recommendation....at a whopping 750+ grams. Basically they say it cements the LP to the platter. Currently running on just the acrylic, no weight. Have to admit that even without a mat or weight the LP seems to be sucked right onto the platter (barring a major warped LP).

Guess I'm wavering on biting the bullet and picking up a weight to see if this makes a difference on an acrylic platter. Anyone have any input????
 
I think I paid $20 for mine in the early 80's and the new ones look exactly like what I have. At least there's nothing to break.
 
Local shop is selling their "heavy" weight for $440. Almost spit my teeth out! It was shiny though!!!
 
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