Anyone know how to fix a chipped pulley on a Rek-O-Kut Rondine?

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If all else fails, find a motor of sufficient power and the same RPM rating. Have a pulley custom-turned by a machinist of talent, attach it to the motor shaft and see if it works. You might need to get creative with the motor mounts, but it can be done. You might only need to calibrate a 33 1/3 pulley.
 

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Hopefully it won't come to that, but ya never know. I'll also be keeping my eyes open for a parts table to grab a motor out of. I'm sure one will turn up with patients, the being patient part being the biggest problem for me.
 

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If all else fails, find a motor of sufficient power and the same RPM rating. Have a pulley custom-turned by a machinist of talent, attach it to the motor shaft and see if it works. You might need to get creative with the motor mounts, but it can be done. You might only need to calibrate a 33 1/3 pulley.
You do not want to get rid of the wonderful Papst motors that Rek used on these old tables. They do not make motors like that anymore...
 

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Well, here's the first go at the repair:



I used the JB Weld as described before and sanded it smooth. It is a substantial improvement over the chipped pulley if not entirely as smooth spinning as the original. I may try another layer to see if it will pack a bit tighter and re-sand or if I research epoxies and find there is another type that is substantially stronger I may sand/scrape it all out and restart. I'll still be on the lookout for a parts motor because naturally I'd prefer the pulley to be perfect, but I am OK enough with this quick fix to move ahead with the rest of the table restore as it's at least usable. Doubt I'll report to getting a pulley machined and trying to break one off this motor as long as the epoxy holds.
 

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Well, here's the first go at the repair:



I used the JB Weld as described before and sanded it smooth. It is a substantial improvement over the chipped pulley if not entirely as smooth spinning as the original. I may try another layer to see if it will pack a bit tighter and re-sand or if I research epoxies and find there is another type that is substantially stronger I may sand/scrape it all out and restart. I'll still be on the lookout for a parts motor because naturally I'd prefer the pulley to be perfect, but I am OK enough with this quick fix to move ahead with the rest of the table restore as it's at least usable. Doubt I'll report to getting a pulley machined and trying to break one off this motor as long as the epoxy holds.
3M Scotch-Weld 2216 B/A. Very expensive but is also very good. Takes ~48 hours for a full cure but is very good epoxy glue.
 

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Your repair looks pretty good! I doubt a belt would wear that stuff, not enough friction to affect it. Be careful sanding though, you might take a little too much off and affect speed slightly
 

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Hopefully, your repair has done the trick. It's a turntable worth spending a little time on. Slowly, but surely, you'll get it done, Dave.

Nando.
 

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So far, so good. Sanded it down and it seemed to held up well running for a few minutes as that's all the time I had to mess with it. It's not a belt though, it's an idler wheel that puts quite a bit more pressure on it so I'll need to run it for a while and see how it holds up. I figure this patch job or another patch with stronger epoxy if need be will work OK, but I expect I'll eventually want a new motor when I come across one as working a patch job by eye can get it awfully close to round and it's usable now, but it'll never be quite perfect. This lets me move ahead with the restore though and when a motor comes up, I can grab it but don't have to feel like I need one urgently. But, I'm looking at this one as a long term project and will take my time. If I end up with a table that's tip top this time next year, I'll be happy.
 

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Don't know what I was thinking at the moment I posted, I know this is an idler LOL. I have an idler in the garage, it does not put huge pressure on the spindle so I don't think the tire will hurt anything, I assume your tire is not rock hard right?
 

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Just saw this on Chicago CL.
He's looking for someone to put together a Rondine from a bag of parts....maybe you guys can work something out.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ele/5318641352.html
Thanks for this link. Looks like I'm gonna be able to get my brother to go pick up the motor off this one and bring it down when he comes home for Christmas. I gave him all the info I had about fixing it up and said if he'd rather just sell the motor, I'd buy it. The epoxy fix seems to hold well enough after running it for a while, but it isn't as smooth and quiet as the other two speeds on the pulley and I want this thing to work as well as possible, so I figure swapping out the motor is worth it. Just will need to figure out if there is a different wiring scheme. From a pic, it looks like it may be the Papst motor, which is supposed to be an upgrade anyway. Supposed to run quiet and on speed, but no way to know until it gets here and too far to return, so crossing fingers and hoping.
 

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Hope it works out for you Dave. Really didn't understand where that guy was going with his bag of parts. Maybe he picked it up for cheap but was in over his head (something I figured out not to do a long time ago).

Cant wait to see your finished Rondine. Would love to hear it someday.

Is your bro local to Chicago? If you're up visiting let me know. Maybe stop in for a listen?
 

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Hope it works out for you Dave. Really didn't understand where that guy was going with his bag of parts. Maybe he picked it up for cheap but was in over his head (something I figured out not to do a long time ago).

Cant wait to see your finished Rondine. Would love to hear it someday.

Is your bro local to Chicago? If you're up visiting let me know. Maybe stop in for a listen?
Yeah, have a couple brothers up there. Don't get up as much as I'd like these days, but I'll touch base when I get in a trip with a few spare moments.
 

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Yeah, have a couple brothers up there. Don't get up as much as I'd like these days, but I'll touch base when I get in a trip with a few spare moments.
It's good that Dave spotted that ad for you. It could save you a bit of trouble if the motor turns out to be a winner. I would have been tempted to buy his entire bag of parts, including the motor, though.

Nando.
 
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