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Funny you should say that...my wife apparently thinks the same of me, as do I.

This is in my office at home.

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Nice table. Have a 598 myself since new. Are you using the stock connection to the bottom of the tone arm?
I've seen some aftermarket ones that change it to RCA connectors at the base of the tone arm. I haven't used my table for a couple of years, but was having trouble with the stock cable at the connection point.
 

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Larrt, in the field I have had numerous people watch me fix Nothin. When they ask me what I've done I am brutally honest with them---" I touched it" I tell em.
 

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Larrt, in the field I have had numerous people watch me fix Nothin. When they ask me what I've done I am brutally honest with them---" I touched it" I tell em.
On 37s we would rub the side of the plane. Going Boeing Boeing Big and Fat. Tell me where your problems at.
 

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Nice table. Have a 598 myself since new. Are you using the stock connection to the bottom of the tone arm?
I've seen some aftermarket ones that change it to RCA connectors at the base of the tone arm. I haven't used my table for a couple of years, but was having trouble with the stock cable at the connection point.[/QUOTE

On mine, the female connections on the tone arm were spread apart. The gentleman I bought it from had gotten a replacement cord, but that was no help. To tighten mine, I used two large sewing needles- one I wedged 90* to the split, and the other at the opposite side 90* the other direction from the split. Using the second in opposition to the first, I was able to get them tightened up nicely. The hole in the tonearm it too big to tighten the terminal w/o the other pin. Hard to explain, but if yours is this way, you'll see what I mean. I think cable stiffness, and the short distance it has to turn in is to blame.

Mine has something funny going on with the motor. It works, but is quite slow for a few minutes at start up, and has an unusual vibration which goes away when it gets up to speed. The time to normal operation is fairly consistent. It's definitely NOT the run cap, though I thought at first changing that helped. I have taken the motor partially apart, and lubed what I could get to, but it's not clear to me how to get the bearing at the base opens. Not wanting to break the plastic at the bottom I stopped short of full disassembly. It works, and I use it, but... makes me a little crazy.
 

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Nice table. Have a 598 myself since new. Are you using the stock connection to the bottom of the tone arm?
I've seen some aftermarket ones that change it to RCA connectors at the base of the tone arm. I haven't used my table for a couple of years, but was having trouble with the stock cable at the connection point.[/QUOTE

On mine, the female connections on the tone arm were spread apart. The gentleman I bought it from had gotten a replacement cord, but that was no help. To tighten mine, I used two large sewing needles- one I wedged 90* to the split, and the other at the opposite side 90* the other direction from the split. Using the second in opposition to the first, I was able to get them tightened up nicely. The hole in the tonearm it too big to tighten the terminal w/o the other pin. Hard to explain, but if yours is this way, you'll see what I mean. I think cable stiffness, and the short distance it has to turn in is to blame.

Mine has something funny going on with the motor. It works, but is quite slow for a few minutes at start up, and has an unusual vibration which goes away when it gets up to speed. The time to normal operation is fairly consistent. It's definitely NOT the run cap, though I thought at first changing that helped. I have taken the motor partially apart, and lubed what I could get to, but it's not clear to me how to get the bearing at the base opens. Not wanting to break the plastic at the bottom I stopped short of full disassembly. It works, and I use it, but... makes me a little crazy.
Is there any wobble or looseness in the motor? Do you have a speed controller on it. You can drop oil down the spindle to get it into the bearing. Does the bearing feel rough.
 

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On mine, the female connections on the tone arm were spread apart. The gentleman I bought it from had gotten a replacement cord, but that was no help. To tighten mine, I used two large sewing needles- one I wedged 90* to the split, and the other at the opposite side 90* the other direction from the split. Using the second in opposition to the first, I was able to get them tightened up nicely. The hole in the tonearm it too big to tighten the terminal w/o the other pin. Hard to explain, but if yours is this way, you'll see what I mean. I think cable stiffness, and the short distance it has to turn in is to blame.

Mine has something funny going on with the motor. It works, but is quite slow for a few minutes at start up, and has an unusual vibration which goes away when it gets up to speed. The time to normal operation is fairly consistent. It's definitely NOT the run cap, though I thought at first changing that helped. I have taken the motor partially apart, and lubed what I could get to, but it's not clear to me how to get the bearing at the base opens. Not wanting to break the plastic at the bottom I stopped short of full disassembly. It works, and I use it, but... makes me a little crazy.
I think you are right about the cable turning radius restrictions. I did purchase a second cable (when parts were available). I used to use screwdrivers to spread the pins on the end of the cable to eliminate the hum. Have you ever had issues with the cueing system? I haven't had motor issues. Maybe I should attempt to try it again....
 

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Now THAT, is the ugly side of what "synergy" can be. = PFM You made me smile.
I could have just jammed cotton balls in my ears.

For my next trick, I'm going to build a chair suspended from the ceiling that holds me in place upside down, that I can raise or lower with a pulley system. This will ensure that I can get the listening hieght correct, while also allowing me to keep using these stands, which I must use, because they must be perfect. With the exception of the pulley hardware, duct-tape will be the primary material used for construction.

Thank You, I'm here all week.
 

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Larrt, I would walk up to the panel, touch it look skyward and scream " PANEL__HEAL THYSELF!!!!!!"
 

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Is there any wobble or looseness in the motor? Do you have a speed controller on it. You can drop oil down the spindle to get it into the bearing. Does the bearing feel rough.
Thanks for the interest.

No noticeable looseness, wobble or roughness.
No speed controller
I did what you describe, removing the cage and putting a few drops in.

Nothing helped.

I've can't imagine that it's a shorted turn in the windings since it's so consistent. Once it's up to speed, it stays there. Very, very close to correct- not belt.

I did fail to mention that occasionally, it takes a mood to work correctly for days.

I have a power meter, and as I recall, it was fairly inductive. I expected it to be pretty much resistive with the run cap in place, but I'm unsure of that.

If anyone thinks it might be instructive, I could hook it up again to see what the phase angle is when working and not. 27* sticks in my mind, but I don't remember if that was when working or goofy. The lower RPM itself might cause this though, right? Out of balance, so less back EMF?

Thanks again.

Now, this really is WAY off topic. This one's on Lee though. :)
 
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I think you are right about the cable turning radius restrictions. I did purchase a second cable (when parts were available). I used to use screwdrivers to spread the pins on the end of the cable to eliminate the hum. Have you ever had issues with the cueing system? I haven't had motor issues. Maybe I should attempt to try it again....
The paper spacer on mine is missing as well, but I cue pretty well by hand, so I haven't bothered with it. Pretty much listen to entire sides, so...

There's a thread over on AK where someone mentions it. I think he gave a dimension for thickness.

User name Frankenstein?

Don't remember.
 

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Joe: That's going to be quite entertaining to watch you flip the LP over at the end of Side One of "Wish You Were Here" while in your new Captain's Chair.

Nando.
 

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LMOAO!!!



Now, this really is WAY off topic. This one's on Lee though. :smile: Got big shoulders Bud, pile it on... Zach, is that TT microprocessor controlled??

:blob:
 

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Can you get some deoxit inside. It may be taking awhile till it can over come the oxidation. I have fixed a couple cassette deck motors doing that. They were slow at first.
 
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