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Will see in a minute if the 1200 works. Then start picking out music. See if I have a blue tape left. If not then the Denons come out. I blue left. Will do 2 tapes for you. 1 denon.

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Will see in a minute if the 1200 works. Then start picking out music. See if I have a blue tape left. If not then the Denons come out. I blue left. Will do 2 tapes for you. 1 denon.

Larry
I can attest to the fine sound of the 1200!! :thumbright:
 

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She fired right up. Didn't miss a lick. Tell you what that 1000 isn't shabby either. Blue Label biased almost straight up.

Larry
Are those Yammie's auto bias, or manual? I know some folks say Yamaha decks make tapes that don't play well on others. That one you made for the 'Audio Storm' 1st TT sounded very good on my Teac and the Denon :D
 

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Manual bias. I have never had anyone complain about any of the tapes I made on the Yamaha. Just the opposite.

Larry

PS Except Graham saying I make them to hot. LOL
 

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Manual bias. I have never had anyone complain about any of the tapes I made on the Yamaha. Just the opposite.

Larry

PS Except Graham saying I make them to hot. LOL
Well, he's probably right, I try to keep the level just touching the 0db mark on most tapes...every tape has it's sweet spot. Just because you can bias and record without saturating a signal doesn't mean it sounds better, just louder, kinda like Lee :mrgreen:
 

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As you'll hear, when listening to the Traveling Guitar Tapes, there are a few of us who recorded hot... but I only follow my deck's recommendation for the type of tape formulation I'm using. The Phoenix Blues can handle average dB output of over 0 dB, easily. I set for peaks in the +3 dB range. I believe, Larry and his other brother Larry (Naknut) recorded in the same fashion as I did. So, Larry when it comes to transferring all the cassettes onto the hard drive, that will have to be considered, as the recording output does vary from member to member.

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That tape will take a +6db. That is by the specs. I can set it at 0 ; but my peaks are going to be hot.

Larry
Larry: that figure is in the realm of most metal formulations. No doubt, I could have pushed it more when recording, but there would have been a jump in sound output from my recordings as compared to others.

I, also, found when we conducted the Innovative Audio Cassette Deck Shootout, 0dB in relation to different decks used in the Shootout was varied. Scott's Tandberg 3014A at OdB was higher in sound output than 0dB on my Pioneer CT-F1250.

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The key my friends is to hit the mark of SQ, it's not 'How much the tape can take', sorry, I find that annoying...it just doesn't sound good. If you have a nice system there is no need to 'PUSH' the tape hard unless you're recording for the car or a boombox...just sayin'...

If your preamp is low noise and everything else is in finesse mode, a lower recording will sound fantastic :cheers: , a higher source voltage leads to overload...not pretty sounding :oops:
 

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It's too bad you weren't involved in this Traveling Guitar Tape, stuwee. None of the recordings I heard were distorted, even while leaning on the throttle. I preferred the higher output recordings.

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stuwee said:
laatsch55 said:
where's Nakdoc when ya need him??
ten bucks says he backs me up :D , Graham too :cheers:
No Probs there Stumiester. Leave the +8 peaks for your Blackwatch 4040 metals or equivalent. I try to aim for no more than +3 for chrome types except BASF chromes which are best at 0db. The high levels make plenty of noise but the cost is compression.
 

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gamve said:
stuwee said:
laatsch55 said:
where's Nakdoc when ya need him??
ten bucks says he backs me up :D , Graham too :cheers:
No Probs there Stumiester. Leave the +8 peaks for your Blackwatch 4040 metals or equivalent. I try to aim for no more than +3 for chrome types except BASF chromes which are best at 0db. The high levels make plenty of noise but the cost is compression.
Thank you Graham, you know what I'm talkin' about!

The Blackwatch 4040's have a bad taste in my mouth...so what ...you can plus them up to +9, big deal, they sound like crap up there.


I'd much rather spend a $20 bill more on a REAL metal and hear everything I want, not a bunch of tones warbleing on and on, hell even a Denon HD8 sounds better pushed.
 
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