SoundMagic HP-150

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Got a pair of these for Christmas. Still breaking them in to see if they change. Considering what various cans cost these days, because of all the "Beats" hype,
these modest headphones are a complete surprise thus far. My first pair of cans I could call my own were Koss - circa 1980. Forget the model number, but they
were the epitome of "neutral". What I can say about the HP-150's is that they possess that Koss sound. No coloration so far - again it's early - but when the
musical content is lively, these cans express that. For more vintage recordings, they sound laid back adding nothing in terms of dynamics.

That's the Koss sound signature.

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I'll do a more thorough review once I clock in additional time with these ...
 
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We wait with trepidation to see if Tony's new headphones get the Miracle Mile seal of approval...
 

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Nice pair of cans...

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Still breaking them in to see if they change. ...
They won't.. breaking in time is totally nonsense. It's your hearing that is getting used to the sound of these cans.

I've owned a LOT of different pairs of cans and I still have quite a few, but I've never noticed them changing in sound over a period of using them from the moment they were new.
 

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They won't.. breaking in time is totally nonsense. It's your hearing that is getting used to the sound of these cans.

I've owned a LOT of different pairs of cans and I still have quite a few, but I've never noticed them changing in sound over a period of using them from the moment they were new.
I beg to differ with this MM, these are speakers just like their big brothers in yours or any of ours listening rooms. The caveat with headphones is the drivers are smaller and very close to our ear canals. depending on the drivers and the surrounds material/magnets/wiring ect...they will need a break in time. High quality componets usually will. Hell, even gear that's been sleeping in the closet for years needs to have some use to 'settle down' after you wake them up from slumber. I've heard the dif.

My main amp and pre (solid-state) are always left on so they sing from the get go. It's all about the electrons, they have a mind of their own and the wiring needs the memory refreshed if older/brought up to date if new. Surrounds take time to set and so on...

Tony bud, I'm a can guy, miss my AKG 340 stats very much, you talk about break in, those needed 50+ hours to settle with the dynamic bass drivers (drivers as in you had to play them off an amps taps to get real)
 

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Post 100 Hour Break In -

Ok, so I've listened to Yes, 'Open Your Eyes" several times since unboxing these and I can definitely say that the spectrum opened up a bit.
To check myself at the door, I'd switched back to my other cans just to compare my frame-of-reference.
I have some Pioneer cans that I pretty much use for Mono listening because they have a mono left-right channel combo switch.
They are great for LP's and portable listening but they are really "pulled back" compared to most everything else I've listened to or owned.
In any event, the Yes album mentioned before is certainly toppy and after 100 hours of break-in, the HP-150's showed more of that
high-freq content as well becoming more pronounced on the low end - but in a clean way. I'm not a big fan of bass emphasized cans.
The Pio's sound same same to me with the Yes as they usually do. It's also worth noting that my headphone amp has no eq adjustments.
So flat goes in from my preamp and flat eq is what you get out, for the most part. It does have adjustable dampening but I leave that
a center detent since most of what I own is 32 ohm-ish.

I also suffer from a really mild case of tinitus that headphones can aggravate. These don't, which surprised the sh!t out of me.
I'm guessing the upper spectrum roll-off is just right for my ears. Bonus!

So now I'm listening to Death Cab for Cutie's 'Codes & Keys',
which is a fairly recent release and is a really well mastered production.

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Most notable is the percussion layers and the vocals spaces. The best way to describe these cans is they are fairly "accurate" with an oh-so subtle, non-fatiguing laid-back component while maintaining an uncolored presentation. 'Doors Unlocked and Open' sounds full and well balanced, with the percussion spot-on and vocals phasing clear & well placed. Much better than my MDR-V6's (which are high mileage) or Ultrasones (that are about 10 years old...), both of which tending to be a tad bit too bright on a lot of material.

I'm sticking to that "Koss sound" characterization on these HP-150's. Not bad for $149.

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I need to delve into a lot more progressive rock & jazz material now, to really size these headphones up.
More to come ...
 
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Your favorable review compelled me to look for these cans- I found three models, the HP-100, 150, and 200. The 200s say "open back," but I don't see that in the description of the 150s. So... are they open back?

I like the way they fold up to fit into the bag, too- nice.

And I agree with you about the break- in period. Coils and driver suspensions have to be flexed for a while before the cone excursions accurately follow the impulses from the voice coil. I don't know if this holds true for electrostatic designs. The same is true for breaking in a new cart- cantilever suspensions have to be "softened" before you get maximum fidelity out of it.
 

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They're closed and the memory foam ear cushions are THE most comfortable arrangement I've experienced.

As far as "break-in" goes, my background is structure-borne acoustics, among other stuff. And I don't get into long debates because there is an irrefutable subjective component to sound,
but that said - electromechanical subsystems all have compliance shift to one degree or another at the mechanical interface level ... and it's measurable. No different than atmospheric changes effecting the response of microphones. Stiffness of materials, temperature, inert frictions and mechanical orientations are variables that contribute to changes in mechanical response - which equals - changes in spectra when it comes to audio drivers.

The subjective brain part just mucks up the deal and makes for lively debates. It's casual ... :p
 
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Just got through listening to Pink Floyd - Animals. The most recent remastered release.

The 'Pigs On A Wing' acoustical bits sounded every-bit as natural and laid back as they should. Really nice tonal quality.

And 'Dogs' and 'Sheep' knocked my socks off ...
 

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Sounds like you're happy with em...
I am.

Everything I've demo'd thus far has been either vinyl sourced or CD.
Postponing any break-out of tape until I can't stand it anymore.
 
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ELP - Tarkus
Deluxe 2-disc Edition

(the one without the DVD)

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Compared some of the original mix to the remixed second disk, which I'm listening to now.

1st disc is toppy - as expected - but the 2nd disc is super dynamic, full and the high freq content WAY smoother.

Carl Palmer is a beast !



::: Oh wow. 'Bitches Crystal'
kicks some serious ass :::
 
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Just got through listening to Pink Floyd - Animals. The most recent remastered release.

The 'Pigs On A Wing' acoustical bits sounded every-bit as natural and laid back as they should. Really nice tonal quality.

And 'Dogs' and 'Sheep' knocked my socks off ...
I'm very jealous of that experience! ~ you just made me add 'Animals' to my playlist for the Logans arrival!

Like you said Tony, it's all subjective, we all hear things differantly and I've said many times that each pinea (the outer part of our ears) differs and affects how we perceive sound. Sit in front of your speakers and reach back and move your pineas' around, or even better have your man servant do it while you light a fine cigar Heheheh! Big change eh???

I wonder if your headphone amp allows you to patch in an EQ...say a nice SAE parametric 180? It'd be like having your own personal soundboard!
 

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Or just sit in the sweet spot and roll your head down and up, big change...
 

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So true Stumeister.

And my ES processor/preamp has a parametric EQ built in. I use it occasionally for really demanding material.
 

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Angle of Incidence is the angle an airfoil attacks the air......close enough....
 
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