Review: Bellari VP129

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Bellari VP129

I have found some difficulty writing this review, which I'll do my best here to explain. The reason is due to the fact that I've had limited down time to listen over the past couple of days, so I've spent all of my time listening rather then writing. In other words, I would have to stop listening to music in order to write a review, and I just don't want to stop listening to music with this new preamp in place. If you think this is an indication of a positive review- it is.

When Larry offered to send the Bellari out for a trial, I was interested in what it could possibly offer in my current set up. I've been longing for a separate phono preamp to replace my current preamp, a Denon DAP2500, which, while not bad per se, it is an over-sized over-featured box that I only needed the phono section for now. The Denon has been a trusty standby, helpful to make comparisons between components and has found it's way back in rotation many times, rather then out. However, I've been ready for an upgrade or some time. Also, given the fact that my Jolida 502brc was already an integrated, I wanted to simplify things. Of course given the Bellari's small size, it was easy to set right between the Jolida and my turntable, a Technics SL-23.

On the Technics, I have an Audio Technica 440mla which I've been messing with for about 2 months now. Despite some issues regarding low level noise, (which has pointed to a possible tonearm rewire, as also experienced on a different cart), the sound never gets in the way of listening to music through the system. I have had several different budget turntable/cartridge arrangements, all either returned, given away or tossed. I can truly say that this combination has by far been the best I have had. Without going on too much more about it, I will say that the 440 gets deep into the grooves, tracks wonderfully, provides a great deal of info and has a wonderful midrange. It does seem to have an upward tilt above the vocal range, which can come off as a little bright. If your looking for something more on the really mellow side, this might not be your cartridge. Or you could try a different preamp with it....

To give a final snapshot on the system, everything is being monitored on a pair of Snell C-IV's in a room that is approximately 12 x 14 with a 4 x 6 entry. Horse-Hair/plaster ceiling, carpet on hardwood with a few small hanging blankets. A truly big set of speakers for a small room, but taking the time to tame thier potentially aggressive nature, with tubes and vinyl, has proven to be very rewarding.

Setting up the Bellari was a pretty simple task. It's a nifty little box with a wall-wort power supply. Solid feeling, nice cage protection for the tube. (The tube was personally rolled by Larry, which is a Sovtek 12AX7, and based on how well this works with it, you should have him roll one for you if you get a Bellari from him) The controls and RCA's are pretty basic feeling, reflective of a budget minded component. I'm not sure why they omitted a power switch though, and in my opinion would have been handier then the mute switch which I will likely never use. I read about the gain being a bit low on these pre's but with my current MM cartridge, I cannot for the life of me find any issues with it. In fact, I have the setting at about 11 o'clock. I could go a little lower even, and that's on the Jolida which has only a passive preamp section. I have not yet engaged the rumble switch. No headphone tests.

The very first LP I tried was a Miles Davis record, Seven Steps to Heaven. While it is not even close to being my favorite LP, I had to hear what he sounded like on the first track "Basin Street Blues". This track has been a bit nerve racking for me. There is something about that close-miked horn that made me very uncomfortable, making me want to just turn it down and pray that it would end soon. However, when I first listened to it through the Bellari I thought- wow, I CAN listen to this!?!?. I absolutely could. But I wasn't really convinced yet. I thought that it was likely some additional tube~smoothness that could negatively effect
other recordings, so I listened on. What I found was something very different altogether. With the next track,
Miles removed from the close-mike, playing with the band, I found that not only was it not smoothed out, it
sounded extremely well balanced with the cartridge. Bass lines were more defined and symbols had shimmer that I would usually associate with a good set of headphones, or systems that are much more expensive that I've heard. It has been very challenging for me to get an overall improvement in the sound of symbols with this system/these speakers. I couldn't shake the sand out and this was the first really big improvement. Bravo. There was also a nice depth and focus that added a more three-dimensional soundstage, very cool. So really, after the first two tracks on this LP, I was already sold. But of course I needed to try more.

I have a copy of Chick Corea/Return to Forever, which was an early purchase I made getting back into vinyl. It's sort of an odd album to me, as I like more classic style Jazz, but it's kind of interesting to listen too. Some of the keyboarding has a cool pulsing sound that is kind of intoxicating, which was also not missed by this pre, and yet there were even more subtleties in the music that I could hear with more definition then before. The tune "Crystal Silence" has an array of chimes that pan between the speakers which had a new, spooky kind of realism which I have never experienced before. Also, the female vocalist who appears throughout the album was much more convincing, and was easier to locate in the overall image.

I've poured over a pretty good bunch of albums Steely Dan, more jazz, classical. I also cued up Chet Atkins CGP, which is a bit of ho-hum newer studio album, with 80's frilly effects but amazingly realistic and on point everywhere with this new pre. Chets' voice on the final track was rich and life-like.

A bit more on sound. One thing I do tend to focus on often is piano. I've had some strange experiences in the past, going from solid state amplification to tube, where I get a bit of blurring on piano notes with the Jolida, and a tighter focus on SS. I thought that possibly the effect would not only continue to manifest itself, but worsen with even more tubes in the chain. This was not the case here, and if anything this has improved. It's a bit of a head scratcher really. But with all these other improvements, it makes me wonder what is really going on with the old Denon preamp, and why the Bellari isn't more "lush" sounding. On Bass performance, there is nothing extra here, maybe even a slight loss of deep bass energy but not disappointing, especially when I hear more details from bass instruments themselves, which is more of an asset then a liability for me personally. Of course this may be cause for interconnect and tube experimentation.

Overall the Bellari is one sweet little preamp that appears to be a nice match-up to the AT440mla. I feel that I have struck some synergistic gold with it in my system, and it will be interesting to see how well it
continues to satisfy my cravings for high quality playback. The fact that it is single tube only, offers very
attainable options that might be fun to try. I would encourage anyone to just try it out, but be warned, you
may find yourself wanting to keep it. For now, I wouldn't want to be without it and this one has found a new home.

Cheers,
Joe
 

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That is a 12AX7 LPS. It was a lot better than what was in it. When I would go to use any of my tubed phono-amps. They weren't very efficient. I would have to turn the volume up. I research tubes before I buy them. This one is one of the best tubes still being made. When I rolled it I was pleasantly surprised. It will only get better. Pure has probably put more hours on it than I have.

Have you rolled the small tubes in the Jolida? Try them 1st before going to the power tubes. Power tubes aren't cheap for sure.

I did not want to sell it. But I did. So now I have to buy another one. LOL Music Hall will be happy.

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The Sovtek looks pretty affordable too, especially in singles. The Jolida has 2x Tung Sol 12AX7's and 2 JAN Phillips 12AT7 WC's. I've never changed them but likely I will try something else at some point. Replacing a quad set of power tubes, 6550's or KT88's etc is getting to be pricey. Rolling the little tubes, not so bad, but could add up if I rolled many.

Research is beneficial, but testing things out is even more so.

By the way, I like the build of the Tara Labs cables a lot. The connectors are longer then the other cables I have and make it easier to install/remove.
 

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The Sovtek looks pretty affordable too, especially in singles. The Jolida has 2x Tung Sol 12AX7's and 2 JAN Phillips 12AT7 WC's. I've never changed them but likely I will try something else at some point. Replacing a quad set of power tubes, 6550's or KT88's etc is getting to be pricey. Rolling the little tubes, not so bad, but could add up if I rolled many.

Research is beneficial, but testing things out is even more so.

By the way, I like the build of the Tara Labs cables a lot. The connectors are longer then the other cables I have and make it easier to install/remove.
I went with Winged C 6550. A quad matched was 200.00. I do like the Tara cables. Even the cheaper ones are well made and they are still made in the states.
It isn't just because I sell them either. The ones I use and the ones I'm going use on the Cary system are a little spendy. Even being a dealer.

Larry
 

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Joe: An excellent review on the Bellari VP-129, using your system components. What's especially nice to hear in your commentary is how this particular phono preamplifier complements your present system and gives you a worthy advantage over previous configurations.

I've heard mix tape recordings from friends who have recorded from vinyl. With some of the recordings from vinyl they lacked the dynamics, clarity, and sound field as compared to their CD recordings on the same cassette tape. Most times, it is related to a preamplifier section that doesn't do justice to their turntable and cartridge combination.

And I've heard from friends who have listened to my LP recordings that my vinyl transfers sound better, or as good as my CD transfers onto tape. I can't say when I'll decide to buy a dedicated phono preamplifier, but I do edge a lot closer to getting one since your favourable review, Joe.

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Thanks guys. I tried to keep things in context regarding the system as I think it's important. This is part of a building experience.

Nando, your recording of vinyl sounded well balanced to me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Could be fun to try, but i don't see how it would fit properly among the rest of your gear. However for me, the Bellari fits, sounds great, and saved me a bunch of money. Future MC carts will just have to wait for me, amongst other things.
 

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You know Joe, there are some nice higher output MC's out there, I have a vintage AudioQwest AQ404, that I played throught the MM of my pre, very nice cart, I can tell on my older cassette's which were made with it in the chain, I may get it refurbed bt Soundssmith in the future
 

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Awesome review Joe :thumbup: , makes me want to try one....Larry what's your dealer cost on that rig with that tube??
Send Music Hall 10,000.00 They will send you a price sheet. Plus your pick of toys.

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I don't think the Technics "S" arms had MC cartridges in mind. Also, the Bellari is MM only. I would consider the AT150mlx (MM) as a future upgrade, prior to changing the TT/Arm/Pre, etc.

Even before I'd change that, I'd try rolling tubes.
 

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Tube Rolling: 5751 12AX7LPS (Sovtek) 12AX7 (Tungsol).
Also this is with the newest version, VP130.

It's going to take awhile to rotate these tubes properly. I was hot to try the 5751. Not flimsy sounding, better focus all around but, maybe bright. This jolida/Bellari sounds even brighter then my Pioneer rcvr right now LOL.

Might not be the best tube in this circuit, we'll see.
 

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Ok there are a few things worth mentioning here. Larry and Music Hall we very kind to help me out with some of the issues and the communication was first class.

While tracking things down I decided to get a 15vdc 1A wall-wort that Radio Shack supplies, this was the maximum recommended power from the manual (12-15vdc 0.7-1A). I brought the Bellari with me and I believe it was a "M" fitting that worked with the Bellari, which also allows you to flip it to insure proper polarity. The new RS power supply featured a slightly beefier, ferrite beaded cord with both regulated and filtered DC. (white/not pictured)

It was just what the doctor ordered. All performance and noise issues eliminated. :cheers:

I'm going to concur with Larry that the Sovtek 12AX7LPS is a great tube for this. The Sovtek 5751 was way too soft, although no gain issues. The TungSol 12AX7 was really nice but a little smoother then I needed. But the Sovtek 12AX7LPS was juuuuust right ( to quote Goldie Locks? )

I really haven't spent any time with the stock tube, which I will likely revisit at some point (Ruby). Likely I won't like it as much but then It would be difficult for me to do a double blind.

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What I found with the stock tube is I lost volume with it. Don't ask why but I did. On the LP tube. I researched a lot of tubes before choosing. When I pick tubes I read recommendations. I also read reviews of the tube. In my mind I know how I like to listen to music. Usually it takes me 2 days of hard research before I buy a certain tube. When you are buying power tubes it can get very spendy fast. I won't say how much I paid for the Cary power tubes. It took me a week before I even thought about spending money on them. If a tube says Made In China I'm a little leery of them. The best amp I had was a Chinese amp that while shipping the power tubes were broken. I went with Mullards and had a very nice amp. In the later days I rolled the smaller tubes. I found that it was a cheaper way to get the sound I wanted.

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Due to the "pay to play" expense of power tubes, I'll likely stick with the TungSol 6550's and the TungSol / JAN-Phillips in the driver stage. Historically the Jolida 502 isn't a bad amp per se, but used to come with junk tubes. Mike must have got a deal as this tube compliment is nice for this amp and I'll likely replace them with a set of the same. I could play with the driver tubes though, I guess.
 

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If you like your power tubes. Yes you can roll the drivers to compliment the sound. When I bought the Carys I had some disposable funds. Now I am on the watch your funds mode. LOL Yes the pay to play is a factor for sure. Problem is I have pretty good credit. I can always find something to spend money on. LOL I have taken all but one card out of my wallet. LOL`

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Paying cash keeps things in perspective for me. When I'm thinking of upgrades system wise, I don't like tossing money out for small returns. Or worse, being dissapointed with non-refundable goods that loose value immediately. I could go nuts with credit cards but I did that with my first wife 16 years ago :cheers:

So I guess that's why I do a ton of research before I buy, even better if I can listen. Honestly I was pretty set on the Jolida JD9 phono pre as it is probably thier most highly regarded product. MC as well as a lot of adjustability. But it is more money, then I'd want an MC cart, then a new TT, then a motorized cleaning machine..LOL.

I really just wanted to get to a point where LP sounded really nice and I have achieved that goal. This is a good starting, and stopping point all at once.

Being able to test run the Bellari really helped conclude my vinyl setup which was a long road even for this rather modest set up (AT440mla/SL-23/VP130). I don't see further investment until the needle or the TT needs replacement out of necessity. (but I did spy a mint Oracle TT for sale down in Boston DOH!!!!)

I think I'm going to focus back on my main speakers now. There are endless directions to go but likely the end result will be a modification or upgrade to exactly what's sitting in front of me right now: Snell EII.
 
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