Hyperbolic Conversion Amplification Curcuit

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Yamaha hyperbol or just plain goobilygook? Is this a push pull transistor curcuit design?


Hyperbolic Conversion Amplification Circuit
This new kind of circuitry, developed by Yamaha, eliminates the only serious drawback of previous Class A operation amplifiers. These had to switch to non-linear class AB operation above a certain load current, causing a slight deterioration in the otherwise excellent sound quality. The new Hyperbolic Conversion Amplification Circuit does away with this problem, allowing your Yamaha MX-800/U to deliver superior performance constantly, without switching or cut-off, over its entire power range.
Advanced Power Supply Circuitry (APS)

An amplifier is only as good as its power supply = this simple truth has prompted Yamaha to develop the APS circuitry incorporated in your new MX-800/U. The problem with conventional power sources was their tendency to produce pronounced voltage ripples during medium to large amplitude music signals, particularly under low impedance loads, together with voltage fluctuations in the power transistors. APS solves this problem by providing an active power source that ensures stable voltage in the final transistor stage under all operating conditions, thus greatly improving power supply to the amplifier.
 

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A good design power supply with good ripple control and adequate capacitance doesn't behave as Yamaha would like you to believe, maybe the worst case scenario might.
Stuwee, it sounds like Yamaha has figured a way to stay purely class A, without switching into AB push/pull mode.
I had not considered measuring voltage droop in the V/A stage as that hasn't been a problem, now Yammie has my curiousity piqued. Where's my DMM and mini-grabbers...........................
 

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I'm in the process of t-shooting a MX-1000's HCA . One channel is outputting full power as it should.The other channel starts clipping the negative swing at roughly 1/2 power there-abouts.
Pissing me off..
 

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Nope.Like I said one side outputs damn near 300watts before clipping at 1khz into 8 ohm. The other channel craps the bed around 180 watts - clips the negative swing and triggers the protect circuit.
 

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Probe the negative pre-driver? Power supply common, separate? GNF inserted nearby?
 

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So have you narrowed it down to a Pre-Pre-driver problem or a post pre-driver problem? Hfe, Vbe collapse in pre-driver?
 

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Dave, not that i would make a good size pimple on your ass, but i've been thinking. Does the protect relay cut off current to the pre-driver? Naturally if you're scoping the output you lose your trace when the relay pops, what I'm wondering is if you lose it at the output OF the pre-driver? Not seeing how the relay interrupts I'm floundering, not an all too rare occurance.
 

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I know , but gets its trigger from what? DC offset from the flat clip in the trace??
 
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