About the Bose 1801

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Ive heard back from my technician regarding the 1801. This is what he had to say

Left channel - 0.1V measured across the output. This is acceptable.

Right channel

DC offset of 34.5V measured across output. This measurement was obtained with the amp plugged in to 120V AC and not turned on.

Q6, Q7 and Q8 are bad.

Service Bulleting #13A recommends changing R3 from a carbon resistor to a ceramic resistor and raising it off the board. It also asks that you check value as it tends to decrease in value with heat and will stress C2 and CR15 causing them to fail. It also requests that you replace R2 with an 8.2kohm resistor from the present 3kohm. All of this has been done, however, the R3 replacement is still a carbon type. In addition the resistance has dropped from 3Kohm to about 700 ohms. The board is burned where this resistor connects to the trace. I will be changing this resistor to a ceramic type. Although C2 and CR15 check OK, because the value of R3 has decreased I will be replacing them as well.

Bulletin #17

The schematic identifies a 2N6175 in the location of Q3 which would be suspect with a + DC reading on this channel's output. Although I cannot locate a datasheet for this transistor, it checks OK. In checking the board, this transistor is not labelled as a 2N6175, nor an MMPS U10 as indicated in this bulletin. This bulletin recommends that if this board has an MMPS U10 in the location of Q3, R11 should be changed from a 1.5Kohm resistor ( as verified currently ) with a 1.8 kohm.
This bulletin recommends the R13 bias pot be replaced with a new one that has not been sealed with glyptol ( becomes conductive as it dries due to heat ). This bias pot appears to have been changed.
It also recommends a 10kohm thermistor be installed across R11 which is not installed presently. It recomments that this themistor be affixed to the heat sink above it with insulating mylar and heat sink compound. As the transistor in the location of Q3 checks out OK, and does not appear to be an MMPS U10, I recommend that we perform the update anyway.

Bulletin Pro-81-001. Your amplifier currently uses the original BOSe part no. 102433. I am currently in the process of checking these on the right channel board. If I find any of these are bad, I will be replacing the faulty ones with the new part no. referenced.

Regarding the bulletins, I will proceed to update both the right and left channels based on what I have seen with the right channel. As stated earlier, I want to perform additional checks to ensure there are no other failed components.


Im happy I have found someone who can actually fix stuff.
 

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Well, well, well, there are even service bulletins for old gear like ours. It sounds like the other technician, before this one, didn't even bother checking for information like that after some exploratory testing.

Nando.
 

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You've found yourself a gem Bubba. If he threatens to move tell him you'll burn his new house down.......works for me..
 

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Well, well, well, there are even service bulletins for old gear like ours. It sounds like the other technician, before this one, didn't even bother checking for information like that after some exploratory testing.

Nando.
I specifically asked the other tech to check this stuff. Im pretty sure the amp blew up when were messing with it at his(current tech) house. But all i got from the other tech was it needed a resistor and new pots for all front functions.

You've found yourself a gem Bubba. If he threatens to move tell him you'll burn his new house down.......works for me..
I thought so too Lee, and he only lives about 5 minutes from my house.
 

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Well I just got a text from Bill. He's got the 1801 all buttoned up and ready to rock. He has not been able to test it under load, so he asked if I could bring some speakers over. Look like I might load up the elites and be heading over to Bills this aft. :smokin:
 

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I can't think of a better way to spend a Sunday. That was quick work, Ben.

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Look who's home

Just got back from Bill's. Still need to wire it back into the system.



 

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Well, no celebrations yet. It was seemingly ok testing it at his house but once home the right channel had some distortion. So its back at Bill's house now for some adjustments.

Bill asked that I bring him my other 1801 as well. He would like to get going on it as soon as #2 is back in order.
 

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Show him Phoenix while you're there.
Just seeing this now Lee. I will let him know about PHX when I see him next.


Its all heatsinks.:mrgreen:
Can you cook with it ?
I have never tried to cook with one, but when I used to throw parties and would run it hard for long periods of time, I would always grab someone and say "hey check this out", "put your hand on these", most people would jump back with a few choice curse words. I have had it hot enough that did not want to touch it.
 

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I have never tried to cook with one, but when I used to throw parties and would run it hard for long periods of time, I would always grab someone and say "hey check this out", "put your hand on these", most people would jump back with a few choice curse words. I have had it hot enough that did not want to touch it.

My JCM900 SL-X 100w would get hot enough to cook hotdogs over the vent hole LOL
 

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That's good news, Ben. How long before you post a video clip blowing the framed pictures off the wall, again?

Nando.
 

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WHAYT HAPPENED TO OL ONE EYE??
Well its going to need some more work than this one. The fuse holder had gotten so hot it weakened the holder and it had come apart way back when the channel went loose on it. He's still tracking down the problems in each board. The board I saw had some lifted traces, one that was repaired when it was rebuilt the first time and one that Bill had to fix to continue troubleshooting. Lots of dark area's on the board. A couple resistors? were charred and broke in to pieces trying to remove them. He's working his way through it.

That's good news, Ben. How long before you post a video clip blowing the framed pictures off the wall, again?

Nando.
Soon enough im sure Nando.
 
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