Yup, I can't even find blown up ones now... And they got the prices jacked up for non upgraded (ready to blow) units.... I can see a wopl selling for 2 grand since there is so much labor involved and the cost of the core unit being between $600 and $1000..... DAMN, it aint worth it. Last year you didn't see a lot of them on the bay, now they are coming out of the closet.. (kinda like my brother)....