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Cheers mate (australian slang) =). The Teac X-10R reel to reel is my next venture, that's gonna be a tough one, heads need re-lapping, and calibration will have to be done. The problem being its such a heavy machine and transport costs will be high. Not sure if there is anyone in australia who specializes in this, would be great if anyone could give me some leads (money permitting for the future). Its a respectable machine for a first reel to reel. Have cleaned it up to the best of my ability, was a mess when I got it, so dirty. I look forward to learning more.

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Derek and Tony, glad to see we have some gamers here. I love playing comp and console games. Although my computer is a little dated these days, and ive had a recent run of bad luck with hardware. My one monitor died a few months ago, my vid card went all blue screen of death. I installed a used Nvidia as replacement and it conked too. Then just last week one of my rams burnt. Im probably due for an upgrade in the near future.

I was right into GT5 on the PS3, but havent picked that up for a while now. Im also a big fan of RPG's, FPS, and some RTS. RTS games are a little more demanding of time though, and with 3 kids, I need to pick my spots if im going to sit down for a round of SC2.

BTW, welcome to Phoenix Derek.
 

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Derek and Tony, glad to see we have some gamers here. I love playing comp and console games. Although my computer is a little dated these days, and ive had a recent run of bad luck with hardware. My one monitor died a few months ago, my vid card went all blue screen of death. I installed a used Nvidia as replacement and it conked too. Then just last week one of my rams burnt. Im probably due for an upgrade in the near future. *Snip* BTW, welcome to Phoenix Derek.
Hey BubbaH, thanks for the welcome =).

That blue screen of death could be a combination of things and it can be a bitch using the process of elimination to trace. I cannot stress more the importance of a Battery Backup UPS, and running the fans on the video card/cpu to at least 60% (80% if you can handle the noise). The only way I have fried components in the past is due to either power fluctuations (bad/cheap power supply/electricity network), lack of cooling, or just plain cheap components. Since installing a $250 power supply and UPS I have had no trouble except when I overclocked the hell out of my previous motherboard and killed it (everything in moderation from now on!).
The default fan settings of video cards are poor in the sense they wait until the heat has already built up on the card (sometimes up to 70-80 degrees C). It is much better to have a higher fan speed straight up as this will give you more headroom for heat dissipation over long periods of gaming time (e.g more than 10 minutes).

Monitors normally die due to minor components on the panel motherboard failing (rarely do the panels/cfl bulbs/leds die themselves).

All round cooling is important and its better to have many fans running at a higher speed and then just pull the pc down once a month and clean the dust from the fan fins/components. Filters can help but can reduce air flow. I use filters (I have 8 fans) and have not cleaned inside the pc for 6 months, although a fine talcum powder like dust has formed on some components, heat is still not an issue. Yes the manufacturers say video cards can run constantly at 65-75c but I still think this promotes a potential early failure. My video card when running dirt 3 sits between 42-52c. It has been up to 84c during hardcore overclock/benchmarking for short periods of time.

One of the best tests to start at the core of the problem is memtest86 version 4, a bootable cd which puts virtually no strain on any of the other components and just goes hard on the ram. 1 full test pass is usually enough to determine if you have bad ram. Careful not to leave this program running overnight, I nearly cooked my ram sticks doing this in my old pc (burnt my fingers on the heat sinks when I took them out).

I hope you get your pc situation sorted soon, let me know if I can help.
 

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Well it runs ok on 2gigs of ram with one monitor and....sigh... onboard video... The ram has been found... wouldnt fire up a comp with the dead ram in it. Was easy to figure that one out. Tried the vid card in my other rig... instant blue screen. The nvidia just gets a case beep defining there is no card inserted. Not much I can do with either of those lol. I got a buddy who is extremely well versed with computers. He's my go to guy when problems arise that I cant figure out on my own.

Thanks for the offer Derek.
 

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Well it runs ok on 2gigs of ram with one monitor and....sigh... onboard video... The ram has been found... wouldnt fire up a comp with the dead ram in it. Was easy to figure that one out. Tried the vid card in my other rig... instant blue screen. The nvidia just gets a case beep defining there is no card inserted. Not much I can do with either of those lol. I got a buddy who is extremely well versed with computers. He's my go to guy when problems arise that I cant figure out on my own.

Thanks for the offer Derek.
Its good to have someone local for support. I would not have learned what I know without my PC buds =).

Yeah sounds like the video card burnt up, its very common, capacitors can swell up and leak too (Even if card is kept clean). My friend had an Nvidia 7600 GT which was never cleaned, the heat sink fins were clogged with dust and NO air was getting through, 1 capacitor swelled up and it blue screened every time after that, he didn't even run games, just windows 7. I donated him a 9500 GT, he's happy now.
 
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Sounds like you are on your way to figure the problem out. As was stated a bad or fluctuating power supply can cook computer components or even the power regulation on your motherboard. If the same component keeps failing then look to the PSU or mobo.

Welcome Derek. :p
 

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On the sub-topic of "tests" for rigs, IntelBurnTest is my go to exerciser when 1) checking out run-of-the-mill builds before button-up and 2) verifying that over-clock settings are stable after tweeks [if you're into that sort of thing :evil1: ]

If you've not heard of it, here it is: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...-IntelBurnTest-The-new-stress-testing-program

It runs inside of Windows which is handy as all get up..
 

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On the sub-topic of "tests" for rigs, IntelBurnTest is my go to exerciser when 1) checking out run-of-the-mill builds before button-up and 2) verifying that over-clock settings are stable after tweeks [if you're into that sort of thing :evil1: ]

If you've not heard of it, here it is: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...-IntelBurnTest-The-new-stress-testing-program

It runs inside of Windows which is handy as all get up..
Those programs are handy, I personally use Prime 95, but real world game/application testing will always tell the full story. Even tho some systems run these burn in test programs for hours/days on end with no crashes, sometimes when you run a game (e.g dirt 3/farcry 3) it will crash and burn within 10 minutes and you are like what!?!? I didn't change anything?!

I look at it this way:
1. Does it run without major frame rate drops? (yes)
2. Is it stable all the time? (yes)
3. Is it really worth me burning something up for an extra 10 frames per second? (No)

I used to be an overclock junkie, learnt the hard way, was overclocking my i7-2700k from 3.9ghz @ 4.5ghz voltage increase from 1.245 to 1.350, DDR-3 1600mhz @ 1687 also voltage increased, video card increased from 1084mhz to 1250mhz, then one day the motherboard fried, would only recognise the ram at 1333mhz. Luckily only fried the board and not the CPU/RAM/Video card, no warning either, just pfaff! there was plenty of cooling too, no overheating. Sometimes you can slightly fry a pc internally and it will give you hell randomly for the rest of its operational life. It may not crash/freeze for 2 weeks, then one day when you have spent 5 hours on a major project that's when it will sting you.

I still take risks with my video card when a new version of 3dmark comes out, cant help myself, like a young car hoon, gotta have a burn once in a while! But I understand if it burns up or just stops working that's the risk taken, all just to try and beat that 3dmark score :laughing9:

These days I do a mild PCI express clock from 100mhz to 102.6mhz which gives me 4ghz instead of 3.9ghz on the cpu, this board is too expensive to fry (ASUS P8Z77-V PRO), a slight increase on the PCI express bus (under 3 mhz). It can also add stability for stubborn systems having trouble running @ stock speed without voltage increases.
 

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Sounds like you are on your way to figure the problem out. As was stated a bad or fluctuating power supply can cook computer components or even the power regulation on your motherboard. If the same component keeps failing then look to the PSU or mobo.
Welcome Derek. :p
I couldn't see a single word of that, my eyes keep panning to the left at that animated avatar! BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE, I can imagine how well they bounce in other places too! (like the bedroom) :laughing9: :p
 

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Those programs are handy, I personally use Prime 95, but real world game/application testing will always tell the full story. Even tho some systems run these burn in test programs for hours/days on end with no crashes, sometimes when you run a game (e.g dirt 3/farcry 3) it will crash and burn within 10 minutes and you are like what!?!? I didn't change anything?!

I look at it this way:
1. Does it run without major frame rate drops? (yes)
2. Is it stable all the time? (yes)
3. Is it really worth me burning something up for an extra 10 frames per second? (No)

I used to be an overclock junkie, learnt the hard way, was overclocking my i7-2700k from 3.9ghz @ 4.5ghz voltage increase from 1.245 to 1.350, DDR-3 1600mhz @ 1687 also voltage increased, video card increased from 1084mhz to 1250mhz, then one day the motherboard fried, would only recognise the ram at 1333mhz. Luckily only fried the board and not the CPU/RAM/Video card, no warning either, just pfaff! there was plenty of cooling too, no overheating. Sometimes you can slightly fry a pc internally and it will give you hell randomly for the rest of its operational life. It may not crash/freeze for 2 weeks, then one day when you have spent 5 hours on a major project that's when it will sting you.

I still take risks with my video card when a new version of 3dmark comes out, cant help myself, like a young car hoon, gotta have a burn once in a while! But I understand if it burns up or just stops working that's the risk taken, all just to try and beat that 3dmark score :laughing9:

These days I do a mild PCI express clock from 100mhz to 102.6mhz which gives me 4ghz instead of 3.9ghz on the cpu, this board is too expensive to fry (ASUS P8Z77-V PRO), a slight increase on the PCI express bus (under 3 mhz). It can also add stability for stubborn systems having trouble running @ stock speed without voltage increases.
Interesting insight. Thanks for the detail.

Like you, I'm a firm believer in PCIe bumps and anything at or below 3% of clock is usually a safe bet IMHE. Beyond that, when I clock multiply on builds, I let Intel's turbo boost do most the work; in other words, I'll take an i7-980X
that inherently runs at 3.33 nominally and boosts to 3.6 GHz out-of-the-box and tweak a variety of settings to achieve up to 3.8 or 3.9 @ boost. Having played the game, so-to-speak, in pushing boundaries of what a rig can do with no real appreciable gain in real-world performance, I'd rather give bumps then go full-Monty with bruises & BURNS. Marginal improvements in frame-rate are over rated IMHO anyway. I'll have to post up a pic of my current (home) rig soon, to show you whats I gots...but the basic summary is this:

Air cooled
EVGA X58 Classified
i7-980X
EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked
12 GB of low latency 7-7-7-18, tri-channel DDR RAM
(2) 'Raptors, 600 GB, in raid 0
(2) Momentus XT hybrids, 750GB, in raid 0
and a few other drives as sand boxes..

Black Ops, MWx, LFD2, Doom 3 BFG, various RTS games.... most everything I through at it game wise runs smooth as silk.
Video & audio processing and photo editing suits my needs very nicely, speed wise.
 

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Air cooled
EVGA X58 Classified
i7-980X
EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked
12 GB of low latency 7-7-7-18, tri-channel DDR RAM
(2) 'Raptors, 600 GB, in raid 0
(2) Momentus XT hybrids, 750GB, in raid 0
and a few other drives as sand boxes..

Black Ops, MWx, LFD2, Doom 3 BFG, various RTS games.... most everything I through at it game wise runs smooth as silk.
Video & audio processing and photo editing suits my needs very nicely, speed wise.
Great specs and hail to the western digital raptor! You know its surprising that a 10,000 RPM drive can outlast the general 7200rpm drives in terms of speed and reliability (I've seen them last 7-8 years). I'd love to get my hands on the 1 terabyte model. Your data is really "there" recorded on magnetic media and can be recovered. I can't say the same thing about SSD's (although they are blazingly fast!). I had a corsair force gt ssd (128gb) with the dreaded sandforce controller (they fail), I got rid of that at the first sign of slowdown with writes (the wear range delta in the smart data went from 0 to 2 rather fast). Purchased a liteon 256gig ssd with a Marvell controller and have not looked back since. Some ssd's just disappear off the controller never to be seen again, rather scary, and its how many writes they have done to the memory cells that affects wear, not reads. I just reloaded windows 7 (on the ssd) and was about to do some audio recording when a bell rang in my head and said "back that thing up onto a magnetic hard disk!" you never know when they are going to go.

I look forward to pictures of your system, cheers :thumbup:
 

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Great specs and hail to the western digital raptor! You know its surprising that a 10,000 RPM drive can outlast the general 7200rpm drives in terms of speed and reliability (I've seen them last 7-8 years). I'd love to get my hands on the 1 terabyte model. Your data is really "there" recorded on magnetic media and can be recovered. I can't say the same thing about SSD's (although they are blazingly fast!). I had a corsair force gt ssd (128gb) with the dreaded sandforce controller (they fail), I got rid of that at the first sign of slowdown with writes (the wear range delta in the smart data went from 0 to 2 rather fast). Purchased a liteon 256gig ssd with a Marvell controller and have not looked back since. Some ssd's just disappear off the controller never to be seen again, rather scary, and its how many writes they have done to the memory cells that affects wear, not reads. I just reloaded windows 7 (on the ssd) and was about to do some audio recording when a bell rang in my head and said "back that thing up onto a magnetic hard disk!" you never know when they are going to go.

I look forward to pictures of your system, cheers :thumbup:
Thanks!

I worked in the storage industry (directly...still do indirectly) for longer than I care to admit and because of it I know TOO much for my own good.
That said, SSD's are too risky for primary drives because the failure rates are still goofy and unpredictable. I could tell you stories about SSD's but
I'll spare you the long winded drama.. That's why I dig the hybrids, because even if the SLC or MLC memory cells degrade beyond oblivion, you still
have the rotating media to save your ass.

'Raptors are inherently robust because they are leveraged off of the WD enterprise platforms - just gussied up for the consumer market.
A million+ MTBF hours of reliability demonstrated and everything WD knows about making heads/discs/motors last are in those puppies.
To me they are worth the price of admission, once they've been out for a while and prices have normalized.
1TB version's are in my near-term future; just waiting for the price to go down some more. :tongue10:
I don't want the space, I WANT THE SPEED! Since Core i7 platforms have been around, the hard drive
path is the only significant bottle-neck anymore..

Cheers
 
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Thanks!

I worked in the storage industry (directly...still do indirectly) for longer than I care to admit and because of it I know TOO much for my own good.
That said, SSD's are too risky for primary drives because the failure rates are still goofy and unpredictable. I could tell you stories about SSD's but
I'll spare you the long winded drama..

'Raptors are inherently robust because they are leveraged off of the WD enterprise platforms - just gussied up for the consumer market.
A million+ MTBF hours of reliability demonstrated and everything WD knows about making heads/discs/motors last are in those puppies.
To me they are worth the price of admission, once they've been out for a while and prices have normalized.
1TB version's are in my near-term future; just waiting for the price to go down some more. :tongue10:
I don't want the space, I WANT THE SPEED!

Cheers

I use SSD' as primary drives but clone them from backup OS HD's that spend their time in a plastic tote. Data rarely stays on the SSD's for long. I back the data up on some Net Drives, usb drives and or Thumb drives. I am never worried about losing data or computer use as I have 3 or 4 redundant systems and multiple backup copies of anything I deem worthy of saving. In my 28 years of computing I have never lost any data by hardware failure.

I also upgrade drive every year or two so I have never had a drive fail on me.
 

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That said, SSD's are too risky for primary drives because the failure rates are still goofy and unpredictable. I could tell you stories about SSD's but I'll spare you the long winded drama
I have never had a hard disk failure cause data loss, even all the way back to my Quantum Fireball 1gig drive. I always caught them before they crashed/wiped out sectors, talk about lucky. I still have a Fujitsu 42 megabyte PIO Mode 0 drive working perfectly. I collect Quantums, probably have about 12 going from 40 gig to a 127 meg Pro Drive LPS, its a shame they stopped making them, we had a great batch of them here in australia and I never had a failure (although some others did). Quantum's demise started when Maxtor (Crapstor) bought them out. I'm now a Western Digital Man. Seagate is ok I guess, but a bad experience with an external drive caused me to shift away from them (faulty usb controller) after the 2nd warranty return I ripped the drive out of the shell and use it on an external caddy of my own (Prodrive LPS). Also with western digital caviar drives (especially the greens) it is wise to disable the head ramp parking idle timer (kicks in every 8 seconds on green drives and increases the load cycles to epic proportions! bad). I have more info but I think you may already know this from working in the industry.

Please do elaborate on that SSD subject, I am very interested, when you have time =). Thanks
 

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I use SSD' as primary drives but clone them from backup OS HD's that spend their time in a plastic tote. Data rarely stays on the SSD's for long. I back the data up on some Net Drives, usb drives and or Thumb drives. I am never worried about losing data or computer use as I have 3 or 4 redundant systems and multiple backup copies of anything I deem worthy of saving. In my 28 years of computing I have never lost any data by hardware failure.

I also upgrade drive every year or two so I have never had a drive fail on me.
Very wise, I also have at least 1 mirror of my data (2 is preferred with 1 copy stored in separate location).
 

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Jesus people, I knew maybe 1% of what youse guys were talking about......Spooky realising how far behind I am....
 

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It just takes time, and much nashing of teeth! Never learning the easy way and blowing up quite a few components (and our bank accounts) :laughing9: I started at age 10. If you need any help feel free to ask.
 
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Some Pics

Something to do, always wondered how to post pictures in the message without uploading them manually. So I found a free server. Some of these pics are from my early days (e.g. the old yamaha k-600 deck/progressive rock pictures on wall).


Old National/Technics/Sharp Ghetto Blaster/RIP Monnie (2007)/Akai GXC-325D Internals

Beta Tapes/Pioneer CD Player/Yamaha K-340/Harman Kardon TD 420/Technics RS-TR155

Yamaha K-220/Stepdown Transformer (240v to 110v)/Kenwood Car Minidisc/CD/Denon DR-F7 Mechanism

Harman/Kardon TD 420 Internals/Compilation Tapes/Misc Tapes/JVC TD-V661 Mechanism

TD 420 Internals/Pioneer Record Player/Speakers (Sold)/Kenwood Deck (Sold)

Pioneer Deck (Needs new motor)/Kenwood Deck head shot/Sony dual well/Teac X-10R heads (ongoing project)

Teac X-10R/Pioneer amp I would like to see working/Overall setup/Pioneer SA-5300 etc/Speakers with dodgy tweeter replacement

DVD/Video Recorder/JVC TD-V661 Deck/Kenwood Graphic (always runs flat)/Sanyo RD 5030/Thorens TD 160 Super

Thorens TD 165/Other stuff (getting lazy here)

Beta Hifi/Beta Cord section (both working 100% - serviced)/Akai GXC-325D

Younger Years!
My 1st real deck (yamaha k-600) used heavily by a DJ, then used for another 10-15 years after i bought it, deck never died, lost it to the ex/1st Hifi VCR (National NV-850 purchased 2nd hand in 1988 by my father)/Dodgy pc/Great JVC Speakers (biggest regret losing them).

Something I did at my first home I rented. I think I was high, looks ok I guess =).
 
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