PL 700 B

[scottonnob]

So what do you guys think a 700B is worth these days? The completed listing Ebay prices are all over the board. I have a line on a local one (no shipping) — single owner, working just fine, no alterations, reasonable cosmetics, PL wood cabinet. The guy has a wife and kids who won't let him listen to his music his way anymore. He's going to dump everything and get a home theater set-up. He also has a 400 in the same condition that he wants $350 for. I already have two 400s (early, and a Series II) and two 3300s. But I'd love to tear into a 700, especially in that there would be absolutely no hurry to get it where I want it operationally. Good long-term project. I'm pretty sure he'd go for $450, maybe less.

 

[NavLinear]

450 is a fair price for a working 700B with good cosmetics and working meters. I recently picked one up for 265 and it needs a lot of help. Of course if you can get the seller to come down from 450 it's even better.

 

[Billboard]

On a 700B cosmetics is about 90% of the game. If the meters are good, and the switches operate you are just about all the way there.

The wood case has to be worth an easy $100, not sure I ever saw one for a 700B. So if the amp is in excellent cosmetic condition you can't loose.

 

[laatsch55]

Here's one.. .

 

[Billboard]

Thanks Lee, I should go back and edit my post "I have only seen one 700B wood cabinet in all my life"

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[WOPL Sniffer]

Yup, snag it.

 

[laatsch55]

Thanks Lee, I should go back and edit my post "I have only seen one 700B wood cabinet in all my life"

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It's the second one I've seen, the first I've held in my hands, a real POS, I kept it in case somebody needed a pattern...

 

[OneTonScoutII]

I thought the 700b used the same cabinet as the 400, 4000 and 5000? I have a friend with one in a cabinet and of all the times I've seen it I have never gotten the feeling they were a different size though I have never measured it either.

The stack is a 400 with a 4000 on top to the left and a 700b with a 5000 on the right, they seem to be all the same.

 

[scottonnob]

700 B

Thanks guys. Yeah, the unit is fully functional. No meter problems. It's a good working amp. Anyone who had this amp would say it's a great unit, but probably could use a rebuild, which I intend to do — full White Oak. The only cosmetic issues are small scratches on the knobs. But knob scratches are easy for me to take care of. I just put them in my lathe and either run a tool across the face, or just good Scotch Brite usually works fine.
On a similar issue, I'm currently doing a full WO rebuild of an early 400 I was given for free. The only problem I'm running into is getting Joe to respond to my emails. I bought the capacitor set for the early, 4 fin 400, but there aren't any install instructions with it, and the only information on the website is for the other, two tier units which mount differently. They may use the same install method, but I want to be sure. So it's just sitting here waiting, along with the completed backplane kit. I sent the email two weeks ago, two more two days ago, and no response. Any suggestions? I'd sure like to get going with the assembly.

 

[laatsch55]

Start a thread, post some pics and we'll walk ya through it....

 

[jbeckva]

Start a thread, post some pics and we'll walk ya through it....

Yup, pic o' the top of the transformer ought to do it.

 

[WOPL Sniffer]

Thanks guys. Yeah, the unit is fully functional. No meter problems. It's a good working amp. Anyone who had this amp would say it's a great unit, but probably could use a rebuild, which I intend to do — full White Oak. The only cosmetic issues are small scratches on the knobs. But knob scratches are easy for me to take care of. I just put them in my lathe and either run a tool across the face, or just good Scotch Brite usually works fine.
On a similar issue, I'm currently doing a full WO rebuild of an early 400 I was given for free. The only problem I'm running into is getting Joe to respond to my emails. I bought the capacitor set for the early, 4 fin 400, but there aren't any install instructions with it, and the only information on the website is for the other, two tier units which mount differently. They may use the same install method, but I want to be sure. So it's just sitting here waiting, along with the completed backplane kit. I sent the email two weeks ago, two more two days ago, and no response. Any suggestions? I'd sure like to get going with the assembly.

He's a VERY BUSY man. He'll get back to ya, hang in there.

 

[scottonnob]

Assistance

Thank you for the great offer to assist me with my rebuild. I've seen you guys do this for others, and your eager generosity is remarkable. I'll take a couple pictures tomorrow and start a thread. And let me be clear, I'm in no way implying anything negative about Joe. In fact, I'm stunned by how much of himself he's given to us in the community with his work, creativity, and products. His thoroughness and organization really are astonishing. Trust me, he'll be getting a lot more of my money going forward. I just haven't had good luck getting email responses lately — which could easily be for any number of innocent reasons. I'm just eager to keep moving forward with the project. Thanks again. Talk to you soon. Scott

 

[WOPL Sniffer]

Yeah, if it weren't for Joe, I'd be blowing up blown up amps for years.................. We need to clone him.

Can't wait to watch your build.

 

[scottonnob]

Patience

He's a VERY BUSY man. He'll get back to ya, hang in there.

Thanks for the encouragement and endorsement of Joe's reliability. I'm just really eager to keep moving forward, and I've been waiting two weeks. I'll relax as much as I'm able and try to display more patience.

 

[laatsch55]

Thank you for the great offer to assist me with my rebuild. I've seen you guys do this for others, and your eager generosity is remarkable. I'll take a couple pictures tomorrow and start a thread. And let me be clear, I'm in no way implying anything negative about Joe. In fact, I'm stunned by how much of himself he's given to us in the community with his work, creativity, and products. His thoroughness and organization really are astonishing. Trust me, he'll be getting a lot more of my money going forward. I just haven't had good luck getting email responses lately — which could easily be for any number of innocent reasons. I'm just eager to keep moving forward with the project. Thanks again. Talk to you soon. Scott

If you had his day job........you'd wonder if you had time for ANYTHING.....and he's subject to leaving the country for a couple weeks at a time....don't think he is right now....but it could happen....

 

[WOPL Sniffer]

Thanks for the encouragement and endorsement of Joe's reliability. I'm just really eager to keep moving forward, and I've been waiting two weeks. I'll relax as much as I'm able and try to display more patience.

OH, you need more projects.......... While you wait for parts, work on the other, and so on..... Pretty soon, you'll have enough junk piled up to keep you busy for a year.

 

[Gepetto]

Thanks guys. Yeah, the unit is fully functional. No meter problems. It's a good working amp. Anyone who had this amp would say it's a great unit, but probably could use a rebuild, which I intend to do — full White Oak. The only cosmetic issues are small scratches on the knobs. But knob scratches are easy for me to take care of. I just put them in my lathe and either run a tool across the face, or just good Scotch Brite usually works fine.
On a similar issue, I'm currently doing a full WO rebuild of an early 400 I was given for free. The only problem I'm running into is getting Joe to respond to my emails. I bought the capacitor set for the early, 4 fin 400, but there aren't any install instructions with it, and the only information on the website is for the other, two tier units which mount differently. They may use the same install method, but I want to be sure. So it's just sitting here waiting, along with the completed backplane kit. I sent the email two weeks ago, two more two days ago, and no response. Any suggestions? I'd sure like to get going with the assembly.

just back from Austin after a couple of days and checked my email but do not see any emails from you. Please check the email address and attempt a resend. I rarely miss an email but it does happen. I get a lot. Sorry about that.

 

[scottonnob]

just back from Austin after a couple of days and checked my email but do not see any emails from you. Please check the email address and attempt a resend. I rarely miss an email but it does happen. I get a lot. Sorry about that.

Actually, the emails I sent to you were simply me hitting the respond arrow on the emails we exchanged when I bought the capacitors: info@whiteoakaudio.com. Is that the wrong address? It's how we corresponded during the transaction, but maybe something's different. This was the text of the first emails:

Hey Joe,



Do I need any special installation instructions for the new capacitors? Obviously, the instructions on the website are for the other configuration. So I'm not sure if that means this arrangement is simply straight forward. I've installed all the mounts and stand-offs on the backplane boards. Tomorrow I'm going to populate them. But I'm not sure about the order of reassembly on the chassis. Should I go ahead and reconnect all the transformer and capacitor wiring before installing the new backplane boards? The chassis has been powder coated, but is currently still completely stripped (see attached). I was planning on attaching the capacitors to the chassis and getting the wiring in order, then installing the backplane boards once I finish them tomorrow. Does that sound right?


Thanks, Scott

 

[Gepetto]

Actually, the emails I sent to you were simply me hitting the respond arrow on the emails we exchanged when I bought the capacitors: info@whiteoakaudio.com. Is that the wrong address? It's how we corresponded during the transaction, but maybe something's different. This was the text of the first emails:

Hey Joe,



Do I need any special installation instructions for the new capacitors? Obviously, the instructions on the website are for the other configuration. So I'm not sure if that means this arrangement is simply straight forward. I've installed all the mounts and stand-offs on the backplane boards. Tomorrow I'm going to populate them. But I'm not sure about the order of reassembly on the chassis. Should I go ahead and reconnect all the transformer and capacitor wiring before installing the new backplane boards? The chassis has been powder coated, but is currently still completely stripped (see attached). I was planning on attaching the capacitors to the chassis and getting the wiring in order, then installing the backplane boards once I finish them tomorrow. Does that sound right?


Thanks, Scott

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Hi Scott
The server at Go Daddy that hosts my site usually throws replies to that address into the spam bucket thinking they might be BOT messages. I will check there tonight and get you a reply.

The cap and PS wiring should go first with checkout of function then backplane with checkout of function and then finally the control board with function check. The caps mount into 2 of the original 3 of the original 3 point hole pattern. Then wire the caps as the originals were wired in.