Tascam 302

speakerman1 · Jan 1, 2011

Well I bought one and it is here. I haven't recorded on it yet; but I have dubbed. Works great. It isn't as fast as other duplicators. It isn't like other dual wells. This is 2 cassette decks in one case. What I dubbed sounds good. Bought another one and am bidding on another one and have 2 offers in. Couldn't find the patch cord in the US. Had to order them from Denmark. Will post pics soon.

Larry

Web Police · Jan 1, 2011

Sounds good I hope it works well for dubbing and holds up to the rigors of many dubs. :cheers:

stuwee · Jan 1, 2011

I don't usually go for dual wells, I don't dub very often. And I've never found a autoreverse machine I liked. But this machine has an interesting feature "The 302 even lets you fine tune the amount of high frequency response via a convenient front panel control."

How does that work? Sounds like it differs from the bias control, have you played with that Larry?

speakerman1 · Jan 1, 2011

Not yet. I just read enough to get it going. There are afew things that are pretty cool about. It has REV sync. You can mirror the controls to just use the buttons on one. You have a pitch control.

Larry

stuwee · Jan 1, 2011

speakerman1 said:

Yamaha's had those things too, didn't they?

speakerman1 · Jan 5, 2011

Not mine. I have never had a dual well Yamaha. It does record in HXpro. I'm wondering what that will sound like on a non HXpro deck?.

I had to go overseas to get the sync cable to daisy chain them. Stuwee when I get a day to my self I'm going to figure everything out.

Larry

Skywavebe · Jan 8, 2011

Hi Larry,
Dolby HX Pro does not encode the tape with any Dolby. It can not be heard other than that it can make a recording sound better. The way it works is it has sensors watching the frequency spectrum of the audio and when a high frequency signal comes along it will decrease bias a bit to allow better hi frequency levels to negate the effects of saturation of a fixed level bias system. This works well and is not a miracle product but can make a difference. How it would work in a high speed or double speed duplicator- I don't know.
Besides the HX Pro is not a device typically that can be turned off in a deck. It is either there or not. As far as noise reduction, Dolby B is basic 9-10 dB, Dolby C is much better,
Dolby S I have not had a great deal of time to work on it but it is said to be even better yet. DBX if you are working with a well calibrated deck does a great job but must be used on both ends all the time. Dolby B and C can sometimes be used without decoding.
I hope this helps.

orange · Jan 8, 2011

If HX Pro were speed dependent it would have been much more expensive to implement and it has been used in many, many dubbing decks and countless prerecorded titles. There is over 30 years of development and usage behind HX Pro, from the original system created by Bang and Olufsen from which HX Pro is derived.

speakerman1 · Jan 8, 2011

The Tascam dubs a nice tape. I had to go overseas to get the Sync cord. I will probably change the belts on them all. It did make a nice tape though.

Larry

Skywavebe · Jan 8, 2011

To Orange,
How do you know if the HX Pro is not being turned off during the dubbing of high speed tape? Imagine what the sensing circuit would do if the audio was now double the frequency.
Maybe the same rules apply- I have never been trained on that part.

orange · Jan 8, 2011

I would imagine that the master is the same tape as the slaves so that the charactaristics will match or be similar enough. Today's (or rather, the most current used) printing techniques render some of this unnecessary. The question is, will Larry be duplicating at 1, 2, 4, 8 or 16:1? In my opinion 4:1 or less would not present a problem. Is velocity/speed linear or logarhymic when related to pitch?

Web Police · Jan 8, 2011

orange said:

Well if he is using the Tascam 302 for duplicating then he would be dubbing at either 1:1 or 2:1 in high speed as the 302 operates at 1 7/8ips or 3 3/4ips.

orange · Jan 9, 2011

2:1 is fine and I believe pitch is NOT 2X but logarithmic although I used by lab coat painting a bike.

speakerman1 · Jan 9, 2011

Web Police said:

Wow I didn't know that. Where did you find that. I think I need to read more. I have the manual on my desk some where.

Larry

Web Police · Jan 9, 2011

speakerman1 said:

In the specifications section pzge 19 in the user manual it lists the speed. The tape deck operates at 1 7/8ips in normal mode or 3 3/4ips in high speed dubbing mode pretty much the same as any other dubbing dual well deck. It would be nice if the deck would operate at 3 3/4ips in the normal record mode though.

speakerman1 · Jan 9, 2011

Thats pretty cool. I have both manuals. What does the CPS button do. I'm about to copy Machine Head live in Japan. Then record on the Yamaha. See which is better at making a master. Listen to a dub on the new Phoenix tape on the Yamaha.

Larry

Web Police · Jan 9, 2011

speakerman1 said:

The CPS button stands for Computer Controlled Program Search. If you leave a 4 second silent gap between songs that you record the deck can search for a particular track. for instance if you push the CPS button till 4 is displayed on the display, and then press FF or rewind the deck will either fast forward or rewind to the 4th track from where you currently are.

speakerman1 · Jan 9, 2011

Web Police said:

Do you know what Stuwee was talking about adjusting the high end. I looked for that but didn't see it.

I may have to order another Sanus Euro rack since I have 2 more of these coming.

Larry

Web Police · Jan 9, 2011

speakerman1 said:

He was quoting what one online website said. I am not sure what they are referring to either. I think they don't have their facts correct.

speakerman1 · Jan 9, 2011

I bet they thought pitch was pitch not speed.

LOL

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