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speakerman1 said:
What good would your ears be if you had no equipment. Then I guess you could hum so you would have use for your ears.

Larry
No ears, no need for a system.

Ask Phil Collins about that, or Pete Townshend who founded a movement to protect hearing after his nearly quit from loud playing. In-ear monitors were developed for this very reason.

Lose your sight and you can still play music. Lose your ears and you have no music.

My ears are part of my system. I suffer tinnitis some already.
 

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I agree with the source part. Why do some people go thru speakers like I do shoes. I was thinking about your amps. Then I think preamps. Just thinking today. Steven your right on a certain plane. If it was just your ears then an old transistor radio would do. Really I'm just thinking out load. To me my 1st component is usually the amp and I build from there.

Larry
 

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To me it's the Amp/speaker synergy, or finess as Larry says. I have to have a big honkin' amp and speakers that suck the current outta that bad boy, make the rails start to sag, hell yeah baby!! I've used a little Sony Discman as a source and enjoyed it just fine, I can't listen to a nasty old cheap TT tho.

My pick is amp/speaker is the most important, the rest is gravy :cherry:
 

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A good amp and a good speaker will more than likely sound good. That isn't finesse or any other kind of magic. Now will a 100.00 Yorx sound good on your MLs? If it does than that is magic or synergy. Finesse is none of those things. Finesse is how the things are portrayed in the way you hear them. My PL sounds good. But a little 300B 13 watt amp will reproduce the sound with finesse. You will hear the tambourine in the back ground. There is nothing in your face about the 300B tube amp.

Larry
 

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I'd say it starts with the source, if you source isn't good then it doesn't matter how good the rest of your components are it will only sound as good as your crappy source. Now the source can refer to the album, CD or Tape as well as the hardware that extracts the information from that source. We have all heard horrible and great albums tapes and CD's, and even tube amps cannot repair the damage from a poorly mastered source. :cyclops:
 

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Like I said, and I stand by it, it's the amp/speaker synergy, first and foremost, the magic lies in that area, you need a great source to complete the package, it's all in the everything to get nirvana, what we all struggle with every day, you twisted enabler's make it hard tho :twisted: , sick puppies, I've had to just deal with what I have for now... and ya'll keep throwin' this nice shit in my face .... :cheers: , makes me want more IC's and more power ... now FF has that Mac for sale and I want it :cheers: :cherry: :faroah: !!!

The Yammie and the SAE amp will be up for sale, it's time to cull the herd, waaaay too many amps at casa de la stu.... or maybe the Kennie ... Nah they don't get any money with that stupid Basic name ... wicked badass amp.
 

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Commandment #11:

THOU SHALT NOT PRESENT AN AGGREGATION OF AUDIO POWER THAT SITS, WIMPY IN MINE EYES.
 

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orange said:
Commandment #11:

THOU SHALT NOT PRESENT AN AGGREGATION OF AUDIO POWER THAT SITS, WIMPY IN MINE EYES.
Hehehe

Naaaaah... Though it's going to be nice to get some more watts goin with the PL (props->LEE :thumbright: ), this "Mutt Stack" I got going blows my socks off every time. I got some good ole Lee Ritenour going right now. FLAC file pumping from the M-Audio 24/96, via the Audio Alchemy DTI/DAC stack, and into the Carver CT-6 (that I've repaired like 3 times already, for good this time). From there up and around the BSR EQ-3000, pumped over to the Nak AV-1's amp section, and out to the Polk SDA's...

Yep, it's a Mutt Stack, that howls and woofs very musically to my ears.. :thumbright: BUT.. to the point of the Important Part hmmmm... Man, every component in the chain is contributing it's own to what I'm hearing right now. If anything? For me probably the preamp. The source is important as always, yep. But if it goes through a "muddy" preamp then it looses it's dynamics. I've had a few combinations doing preamp duty, and this Carver (props->Larry :thumbright: ) is very transparent. It has beaten the C60 Yamaha easily... a Marantz 2230.... few others. Works well, even if I've had to tear it apart a few times already.
 

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Love your term"mutt stack" Jer, very cool. Your Series 1 700 will be shipped before the end of the week.
 
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