AZ GOP party to raffle a Glock pistol

[stuwee]

I'm keeping this out of our new section because I don't think it belongs there. Thanks to Jerry and Larry for setting that section up

Anyway, I'm a bit torn on this issue, the Arizona Republican Party is holding a raffle for money, this has gone on for centuries, but the prize is a really nice Glock pistol...just like the one used in the January 8th shootings here in Tucson of Gabby Giffords and which killed 6 people. There's a huge outcry from both sides on this.

Should they pull the raffle item and replace it with another prize?

Should they just make it another type of gun?

more on the story, http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... itico.html

 

[Web Police]

Should they pull the raffle item and replace it with another prize?

I'd say time to find another item to raffle, maybe some slabs or restored 700B.

 

[stuwee]

I understand the guys point that the Glock was no more responsible for the shooting than a number 2 pencil is for cheating a test, but then that was the worst mass shooting here in many, many years, and it does seem in bad taste to keep the raffle open for it, lot's of staunch republican gun owners said on the news they were outraged at the whole thing, it's really tense down here anyway with the record high temps, this isn't helping.

 

[avionic]

I used to have a model 19..Piece of shit..Sold it and bought 3 beryllium NS-1000 tweeters.

 

[stuwee]

I used to have a model 19..Piece of shit..Sold it and bought 3 beryllium NS-1000 tweeters.

Hey Dave, where ya been?? Diggin' that new CDP I bet

 

[Fairchild]

I am pro firearms, but sometimes things are in just bad taste.

I would also venture to say that in this case a raffle is not the best means of dispensing firearms, at a Ducks Unlimited fund raiser or such yes, you have mostly responsible gun owners, but for a political rally I am not sure that all that purchase tickets would be good canidateds for owning firearms. Guns are not for everyone.

Jim

 

[stuwee]

I am pro firearms, but sometimes things are in just bad taste.

I would also venture to say that in this case a raffle is not the best means of dispensing firearms, at a Ducks Unlimited fund raiser or such yes, you have mostly responsible gun owners, but for a political rally I am not sure that all that purchase tickets would be good canidateds for owning firearms. Guns are not for everyone.

Jim

I totally agree Jim, but Arizona has some of the most open gun laws in the country. If your not a convicted felon, you can pretty much do as you like, concealed weapons without a permit is ok down here, you can carry in a bar or restaurant (the owners have the right to deny that by posting signs). They have a law on the books to be able to carry on a college campus, for teachers and students. That one is causing a ruckus on all sides tho. The UofA is a huge school, with lot's of out-of-state students and their parents are quite vocal in opposition to this.

It's ironic that the mass shooting happened at a political rally. The sick individual who did the shooting is up for trail in town soon. His doctors have to approve if he's fit for trail first, the young man is very disturbed but didn't have a police record proir to the shooting, even though he had mulitple incidents at a local cumminity college just the month before.

 

[Fairchild]

They have been working on conceled carry in this state for years. If they ever get it passed I will take the required classes and get a permit, that does not mean I wish to carry a firearm on a daily basis, but i want to have that option, and probably won't use it.

Jim

 

[laatsch55]

And the man who stopped that spree happened to be a concealed carry permit holder. As Robert Heilein said" An armed soceity is a polite soceity, for one does not insult frivolously when one may have to back it up with his life"

 

[Fairchild]

Robert Heinlein is one of my favorite authors. Stranger in a Strange Land, Time Enough for Love.

When they made the movie Starship Troopers they so missed the real story in the book as to make it unrecognizable.

Jim

 

[orange]

That's about what they said about DUNE.

I never read the story so it's was just a bizarre Sci-fi film to me.

 

[laatsch55]

The "Dune " series is a must read if you are in to Sci-Fi at all .

 

[jbeckva]

The "Dune " series is a must read if you are in to Sci-Fi at all .

Or watch that movie like .. 20 times... it sinks in, eventually.

(well, it did for me... the first time I was like.. "what? huh? hmmmm??")

 

[stuwee]

The movie took a beating from the "Critics", but they didn't get it, I thought it was very well done, the cast was brilliant, I wanted to be a Harkonan when I was younger. the movie had the coolest costumes and sets ever. Very retro Metropolis like. Just awesome spice, gimme, gimme!!