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Well, we will see where this goes. England does not have farms enough to feed itself so I expect the importing costs will crush whatever benefits exiting the EU offers. The main thing is control over borders, keep the trash out and that means less mouths to feed. If Germany and France leave, then we will see a real shitstorm for the EU. No more free rides for Greece and other countries that suck the tit. It will be interesting to see if England can hold on to Ireland, Scotland and even Wales
EDIT: If the EU had not forced it's members to accept Muslim immigrants, this probably would never have happened
EDIT: If the EU had not forced it's members to accept Muslim immigrants, this probably would never have happened
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Now if all the people moaning about gloom and doom will just get their heads out from their arses and realize this is not a permanent 'setback' and that the fools who hedged against the pound with dollars and euros will find themselves not very rich once things swing back (like a pendulum do)...
Wouldn't it be a good time to return to old agrarian ways and take care of oneself again?
Wouldn't it be a good time to return to old agrarian ways and take care of oneself again?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-will-be-next-prime-minister-uk-a7100566.html
Next Steps:
Watch Scotland go another round for their independence with France and the Netherlands to depart the EU next.
[h=2]Leave Free — Or Die![/h]
Next Steps:
Watch Scotland go another round for their independence with France and the Netherlands to depart the EU next.
[h=2]Leave Free — Or Die![/h]
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Scotland wants to fully be a part of the EU. England doesn't, as reflected by yesterday's stunning results.
BTW, Scotland's oil output from the North Sea has been steadily declining and what 'remains' has lost huge value since oil plummeted from +$100 Brent levels.
I'll admit though, there will be other EU nations lining up first to get the f*ck out from under Brussel's reign.
The Scot's are too busy partying ...
BTW, Scotland's oil output from the North Sea has been steadily declining and what 'remains' has lost huge value since oil plummeted from +$100 Brent levels.
I'll admit though, there will be other EU nations lining up first to get the f*ck out from under Brussel's reign.
The Scot's are too busy partying ...
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by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) 24 Jun 2016
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The British people, our special friends and allies, deserve our full support following their sovereign and considered decision to leave the European Union.
The people spoke from their hearts and with conviction. They considered deep and critical issues never discussed by the international elites. Their strong vote arose not out of fear and pique but out of love for country and pride of place. Their experience with a distant government in Brussels was given a long and fair chance to succeed. In the end, however, they concluded that the costs outweighed the benefits. Often, Britain makes changes that precede U. S. action. The Thatcher movement preceded the Reagan revolution. Both were victories for the people over outdated and corrupt forces. Both were achieved against powerful and determined establishment forces. Both resulted in historic and positive periods in their nation’s history.
Now it’s our time. The period of the nation state has not ended. No far off global government or union can command the loyalty of a people like their own country. Vague unions have no ability to call on the people to sacrifice for the common good. They seem incapable of making decisions and when they do, they have difficulty executing the decision.
Far better to celebrate the wonder and proven worth of good nation states and to work hard to use that foundation to build harmonious political and trading relations among the nations. This is the best basis for peace and prosperity.
In negotiations and relationships, national leaders should first ensure they have protected the safety and legitimate interests of their own people. This principle has been eroded and Brexit is a warning for America. Our British friends have sent the message loud and clear.
The interests of powerful international corporations, media, special interests, and leftist international forces are not coterminous with those of our people. This we must understand. The ultimate interest that our government is legally and morally bound to serve is that of our people.
Just as in the U.K., our November presidential election presents a stark contrast. The establishment forces, the global powers, are promoting their values and their interests. They want to erode borders, rapidly open America’s markets to foreign produced goods, while having little interest in advancing America’s ability to sell abroad. These forces have zero interest in better job opportunities and higher wages for our citizens.
It has been known for years that the European Union has often served as a barrier to its members taking action that would serve their own interests. Perhaps nothing proves this more definitively than the current migrant crisis, where the EU has clearly been part of the problem, not the solution.
And, consider the promotion of radical trade policies that erode the power of the people to control their lives. Millions upon millions of dollars from around the globe are being spent to get America to agree to the massive, twelve-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership. While sold as a trade deal, in reality, the TPP is a Trojan Horse for yet another sovereignty-eroding global pact. If implemented, it would create a new governing body that would exercise power and make decisions that the United States Congress would be effectively powerless to block. Like the EU, each nation gets one vote. Brunei and Vietnam get one vote as does the President of the United States.
We must remember that the European Union began as a seemingly benign economic agreement, and we must not forget, that as Secretary of State, with negotiating responsibility for the TPP, Hillary Clinton promoted it and called it the ‘gold standard’ for a trade deal. That should give us all pause. This sovereignty eroding trade deal is in perfect accord with her globalist agenda.
Too many politicians and pundits here in America have been woefully oblivious to, or in some cases complicit in, what is going on around us. The failed European Union experiment, and Great Britain’s rejection of it, must serve as a wake-up call for all of us in America.
I applaud yesterday’s strong and patriotic action taken by America’s special friend, retaking its independence. I know that moving forward the deep and historic ties between Great Britain and America will grow ever stronger. I believe the American people too will choose independence this November.
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The British people, our special friends and allies, deserve our full support following their sovereign and considered decision to leave the European Union.
The people spoke from their hearts and with conviction. They considered deep and critical issues never discussed by the international elites. Their strong vote arose not out of fear and pique but out of love for country and pride of place. Their experience with a distant government in Brussels was given a long and fair chance to succeed. In the end, however, they concluded that the costs outweighed the benefits. Often, Britain makes changes that precede U. S. action. The Thatcher movement preceded the Reagan revolution. Both were victories for the people over outdated and corrupt forces. Both were achieved against powerful and determined establishment forces. Both resulted in historic and positive periods in their nation’s history.
Now it’s our time. The period of the nation state has not ended. No far off global government or union can command the loyalty of a people like their own country. Vague unions have no ability to call on the people to sacrifice for the common good. They seem incapable of making decisions and when they do, they have difficulty executing the decision.
Far better to celebrate the wonder and proven worth of good nation states and to work hard to use that foundation to build harmonious political and trading relations among the nations. This is the best basis for peace and prosperity.
In negotiations and relationships, national leaders should first ensure they have protected the safety and legitimate interests of their own people. This principle has been eroded and Brexit is a warning for America. Our British friends have sent the message loud and clear.
The interests of powerful international corporations, media, special interests, and leftist international forces are not coterminous with those of our people. This we must understand. The ultimate interest that our government is legally and morally bound to serve is that of our people.
Just as in the U.K., our November presidential election presents a stark contrast. The establishment forces, the global powers, are promoting their values and their interests. They want to erode borders, rapidly open America’s markets to foreign produced goods, while having little interest in advancing America’s ability to sell abroad. These forces have zero interest in better job opportunities and higher wages for our citizens.
It has been known for years that the European Union has often served as a barrier to its members taking action that would serve their own interests. Perhaps nothing proves this more definitively than the current migrant crisis, where the EU has clearly been part of the problem, not the solution.
And, consider the promotion of radical trade policies that erode the power of the people to control their lives. Millions upon millions of dollars from around the globe are being spent to get America to agree to the massive, twelve-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership. While sold as a trade deal, in reality, the TPP is a Trojan Horse for yet another sovereignty-eroding global pact. If implemented, it would create a new governing body that would exercise power and make decisions that the United States Congress would be effectively powerless to block. Like the EU, each nation gets one vote. Brunei and Vietnam get one vote as does the President of the United States.
We must remember that the European Union began as a seemingly benign economic agreement, and we must not forget, that as Secretary of State, with negotiating responsibility for the TPP, Hillary Clinton promoted it and called it the ‘gold standard’ for a trade deal. That should give us all pause. This sovereignty eroding trade deal is in perfect accord with her globalist agenda.
Too many politicians and pundits here in America have been woefully oblivious to, or in some cases complicit in, what is going on around us. The failed European Union experiment, and Great Britain’s rejection of it, must serve as a wake-up call for all of us in America.
I applaud yesterday’s strong and patriotic action taken by America’s special friend, retaking its independence. I know that moving forward the deep and historic ties between Great Britain and America will grow ever stronger. I believe the American people too will choose independence this November.
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I don't know about all this, it appears the very voters... are already having buyers remorse as the full implications of their vote become apparent. If Britain starts to go under in the next year or two, WE will have to prop them up because no one else will touch GB with a 10ft pole. I hope that will not be the case but I see this as a potentially bad thing, especially if the EU tries to punish the UK for leaving as a warning to other member nations who are getting the itch. If the EU does end up folding, the Euro is going to become worthless and I imagine a lot of people have money invested in the Euro. Todays stock market losses are nothing compared to what could come
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UK's state of affairs in the mid to late 1970s was shit, and then again in the early 1980s...by the late 1980s the UK benefitted greatly from the EU and open markets with Europe, right through the 2000s
Pushing the immigration issue is the undoing of the EU. Who wants a bunch of people who follow a backward religion and refuse to assimilate. That is the failure (as well as bailing out welfare states)
Pushing the immigration issue is the undoing of the EU. Who wants a bunch of people who follow a backward religion and refuse to assimilate. That is the failure (as well as bailing out welfare states)
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