First PL700 Check Out

Kma4444

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Alright so this is the 1st of my inherited amps getting a very basic check out. I attached a video, at least I hope I will, of the DBT, just so someone can say normal or otherwise. And then pics just because. I think dad bought this new as he engraved his name and SSN on the side.
It was missing the cap for the lower right supply fuse, I think I identified that correctly. When I replaced it the right channel had -85 vdc. The left had .125 vdc. I originally powered it up with the variac slowly, took about a minute as suggested here.
So I'm assuming this was taken out of service for the problem with the right channel. What would I do from here, besides a total rebuild with White Oak bits. I want to do that with some if not all of these but it would be cool to get one working while I am doing others.
Thank you IMG_20200525_131957.jpg IMG_20200525_132016.jpg IMG_20200525_132458.jpg IMG_20200525_133442.jpg IMG_20200525_133454.jpg IMG_20200525_133625.jpg IMG_20200525_133627.jpg IMG_20200525_133631.jpg IMG_20200525_133636.jpg IMG_20200525_133737.jpg
 
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Failed DBT. Left meter up half way also. Experts will be along soon but sounds like a shorted output. Was the 85v + or - will help you narrow things down.
 

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Thank you very much. I decided to go ahead and check out some of the other ones. The second one I will show here, and it illustrated the difference in the DBT test for me.
I'm guessing this test was more normal. But this one shows +95.2 vdc on the left and .062 on the right.
This amp is really clean and nice looking to my untrained eyes. IMG_20200525_142613.jpg IMG_20200525_142750.jpg IMG_20200525_142753.jpg IMG_20200525_142755.jpg IMG_20200525_142757.jpg IMG_20200525_142800.jpg IMG_20200525_142814.jpg IMG_20200525_142818.jpg IMG_20200525_142826.jpg
 

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So here's the 3rd for today. This is the one that I earlier powered up with the variac and then tried to play sound. It seemed like it was working alright, only had one speaker hooked up. Then it blew the line fuse. You can see the dcv test on the tape on top of it.
The DBT test seems fine. IMG_20200525_150533.jpg IMG_20200525_150529.jpg IMG_20200525_150527.jpg IMG_20200525_150526.jpg IMG_20200525_150523.jpg IMG_20200525_150440.jpg IMG_20200525_150434.jpg IMG_20200525_144030.jpg
 

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Last 700 of my collection. This one is pretty rough looking. Seems to fail the DBT. Output dcv look OK I think.
Off to put my hands on the manual I have. IMG_20200525_152006.jpg IMG_20200525_152137.jpg IMG_20200525_152145.jpg IMG_20200525_152206.jpg IMG_20200525_152210.jpg IMG_20200525_152212.jpg IMG_20200525_152214.jpg IMG_20200525_152217.jpg IMG_20200525_152221.jpg IMG_20200525_152243.jpg
 

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So here's the 3rd for today. This is the one that I earlier powered up with the variac and then tried to play sound. It seemed like it was working alright, only had one speaker hooked up. Then it blew the line fuse. You can see the dcv test on the tape on top of it.
The DBT test seems fine. View attachment 42337 View attachment 42338 View attachment 42339 View attachment 42340 View attachment 42341 View attachment 42342 View attachment 42343 View attachment 42344
Bottom row on the outputs should be 410's , they are all the same 15024's
 

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Last 700 of my collection. This one is pretty rough looking. Seems to fail the DBT. Output dcv look OK I think.
Off to put my hands on the manual I have. View attachment 42346 View attachment 42347 View attachment 42348 View attachment 42349 View attachment 42350 View attachment 42351 View attachment 42352 View attachment 42353 View attachment 42354 View attachment 42355

Pretty rough lookin outputs, the 410's should be in the bottom row, all other outputs on each channel should be the same..909's, or 15024's or 2SD 555's..
 

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Pretty rough lookin outputs, the 410's should be in the bottom row, all other outputs on each channel should be the same..909's, or 15024's or 2SD 555's..
Thank You, much of this one looks pretty rough. Looks like it bounced in it's past also. Chassis is bent etc....
 

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I'm not trying to bombard the board with stuff, just figured since I was checking one out I would do them all. I will do the 400s next. It seems I just have the owner's manual. Can't imagine dad didn't have the service manual but I haven't come across them yet. Where does one get them? Suppose I will need 700, 700B and 400.
 

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Failed DBT. Left meter up half way also. Experts will be along soon but sounds like a shorted output. Was the 85v + or - will help you narrow things down.
I added the - to the vdc number where needed. I think it's poor lighting in my video, I don't think the left needle was up.
Thank you again
 

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700, 700B should be the same manual. 400 should be it's own. The Ser II's will be a separate manual also...

Try Hi-Fi Engine.

But if you want a good hi quality copy Stereomanuals.com
 

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I'm not trying to bombard the board with stuff, just figured since I was checking one out I would do them all. I will do the 400s next. It seems I just have the owner's manual. Can't imagine dad didn't have the service manual but I haven't come across them yet. Where does one get them? Suppose I will need 700, 700B and 400.
You do NOT need to apologize for posting pictures of PL gear on this board!
You have a lot of good iron there and the people on this board are just as interested as you are in getting them all in working condition. I might make a suggestion - because you can't listen to all those amps at once, you may consider selling one or two to pay for the bits you will need to make the rest of them operational and reliable. Figure $300 to $600 per amp to make them worth twice that much after the upgrades. And you will learn a lot in the process. You are what keeps this board going.
 

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Last 700 of my collection. This one is pretty rough looking. Seems to fail the DBT. Output dcv look OK I think.
Off to put my hands on the manual I have. View attachment 42346 View attachment 42347 View attachment 42348 View attachment 42349 View attachment 42350 View attachment 42351 View attachment 42352 View attachment 42353 View attachment 42354 View attachment 42355
Never seen a heatsink bent like that. Usually the chassis ears. Joe can take care of you. We always enjoy seeing 700's coming back to life. Happy dance time.
 
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