SO why do you want another one? If 12 watts isn't enough, is 8 going to be better? I would see about a kit, and build it, or go for the B O W E I one from China. I really like the Yaqin MS-12B I bought from China, and Roy of VTA said he couldn't even buy the parts in the unit for what they sold it for. Quality parts too....I did have it modded with different Soinicaps, and the voltages adjusted which were off, but beyond that, the stuff coming out of China represents a REAL value...I know you have owned some of this Cchinese gear before. You gota change the tubes to American, Europ0ean, or even Russian, but I'll bet they catch on to the tube thing soon, and make a better tube than the Russians are making. I think the Chinese govenrment must support their manufacture of consumer goods for export...Get the B O W E I and then send it to me so I can hear it. I love the way those big A$$ 300B tubes look.