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  1. BlueCrab

    WOPL update for PL400

    Appreciate that. Matches what I had gleaned. Is there a schematic for the light board?
  2. BlueCrab

    WOPL update for PL400

    Everything is proceeding smoothly and then an "Ah Shit". First, I tested the power supply - both B+ & B-, without connecting either the WOPL PL400 backplane or the WOPL PL14-20 control board. It tested fine - about +/- 82 vdc. Then I connected power to both the backplane and the control board...
  3. BlueCrab

    Scored this today:

    Nice! How's the condition?
  4. BlueCrab

    WOPL update for PL400

    Construction continues - when I get a chance. So far, no serious issues and I've been following the instructions. Here are some notes. 1) As stated earlier, I stripped the chassis down to nothing to treat some beginning corrosion. The transformer had some. I looked at the suggestion to use...
  5. BlueCrab

    And you can now connect the chassis to the line cord ground if you desire. You will, of course...

    And you can now connect the chassis to the line cord ground if you desire. You will, of course, want to check which configuration gives you the least hum pickup. But make that measurement with the inputs shorted (not open) to signal ground (not the chassis). Hope this helps.
  6. BlueCrab

    Hi Peter. There is no reason to connect the signal ground (which is the center tap of the...

    Hi Peter. There is no reason to connect the signal ground (which is the center tap of the secondary) to the chassis. If you isolate the signal ground from the chassis (that screw) and make your measurement from the chassis to line cord ground, there should be 0 vac (and 0 vdc) since the...
  7. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Sorry Peter, you're missing the point. All transformers will exhibit this behavior - it's inherent and is expected, there is nothing wrong with your transformer. If you isolate the signal ground plane (i.e. the secondary center tap from the chassis) from the earth ground of the plug, the...
  8. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Peter, in my opinion, the chassis and signal ground should be kept separate. That is, signal ground is not connected to the chassis. The sketch below shows the idea. The signal ground which is connected to the center tap of the secondary is not connected to the chassis. The AC power earth...
  9. BlueCrab

    WOPL update for PL400

    I planned to replace the power cord since its condition was looking poor. Initially I thought I'd put on a 3 prong plug with an earth and tie it to the chassis and float the amp's ground from the chassis. This would provide safety and shield the amps innards. But then the amp can't be plugged...
  10. BlueCrab

    WOPL update for PL400

    Stripped the chassis down to nothing - cleaned everything. Plan is to build the WOPL PL14/20 card first. Then build up the backplane without the transformer just to make it easier to move around. Then install transformer and rebuild power supply and test it before connecting it to anything...
  11. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    I would not jump to the conclusion the hum is somehow due to the transformer. Maybe, but keep an open mind. There are other possibilities as suggested above. Is it on both channels? Can you see it on a scope (and hence measure it). Try shorting the inputs to shield - and this has to be a...
  12. BlueCrab

    Schematic question

    Spent a few minutes looking at the schematic. I see what you're saying - no direct connection from the negative speaker terminals to ground. Sorry I can't be of more help.
  13. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Beautiful! Glad to hear things have worked out. A nice new year's present.
  14. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Peter stated earlier the snubber caps were 0.3 uF.
  15. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Question is: Is this the source of your hum. Sounds to me that your signal source and the amp are on two different ground planes. Connecting a jumper from the amp chassis to 120vac outlet ground is putting them on the same ground plane (or nearly so). The coax from the signal generator should...
  16. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    So that all makes sense if you're getting a bit of leakage current due to the inherent capacitance/inductance between the primary and secondary in the transformer. Making the same measurement with one of those old 1000 ohm/volt VOMs, and the voltage would shrink to nearly zero. This also...
  17. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Do you have any idea what the impedance of your meter is on the AC scale? Agree that 42 uA is well below what would trip a GFCI circuit. With a high input impedance meter it's possible the voltage you see is due to stray capacitance/inductance of the transformer.
  18. BlueCrab

    PL 700 II Clair Bros Rising from the Ashes

    Just to be sure I understand. This is your situation:
  19. BlueCrab

    WOPL update for PL400

    Ha ha. Thought I was going to get a lot of stick for refurbishing a PL400. Your pros and cons are always welcome.
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